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Here Is My Starforce Project
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you ppl like XD
reply will ya?
First off, dont resize, most of your animations are hard to see because you resized them and then they look like shit.
The sprites you make look like shit, because you resize too, not that you do anything except for make frankensteins and recolors, which need a lot of work.
Don't quadraple post. Sure, you're allowed to if you've got updates, but there's a hole of 8 minutes. I doubt you made those in 8 minutes, you just split them whilst uploading.
Finally, don't spam, and don't use chatspeak.
PLEASE READ THE RULES. >.<
And if someone didnt reply within a minute, don't spam asking for a reply.
Nightshade Axl
02-07-10, 22:26
please make the sprites more custom and if you only want us to comment on the animations then move them to the animation forums in your own thread (not that anyone is in there anymore) and read lerns sig and just because you are a newbie doesn't mean anything we get 2+ newbies a week here
I'm not trying to be mean i am just telling you the truth and use paint it is best for sprites and save them as png
Don Kalypso
02-07-10, 22:27
It's been a while since I was last an ass on command, but here goes:
First off, on your animations, the sprites themselves are tiny, it's hard to make out who's who and what's what. Second, while it is generally accepted that most RM characters are in fact able to break the laws of physics, even they listen to gravity, for the most part, and so it makes very little sense for even one of them to jump/dash diagonally in a straight line without some form of booster help; and this is where the helpful part comes in, when you make them jump, have them go in an arch, not a straight line.
I would critic your sprite/s, but I believe the only true piece of C&C I can give there is you should take a couple lessons in colour theory, the colours you have there in your RMZX hodgepodge are eye searing and ugly next to each other.
Other than all of that, welcome to SI, and I hope your time here helps you grow not only as a spriter, but also as an animator.
[fish in space]
03-07-10, 05:17
ohhhhh my god
hahaha
wow
fuck, well lets get started. the first guy is a shitty copy paste recolour. wow, shocking. anyway, that shade of brown does not go very well with that green, and the design looks conflicted and messy, not to mention the resizing issues. the 8-bit zero looks more like an edit of megaman wearing shitty zero pajamas. the third one is another copy paste. woo. congratulations, this is some of the shittier stuff i've seen in a while. try working on something custom, or at least design an original character.
My Lord these are Worse than Jeffreygamecreator's Sprites...or in fact any other person that is a very Shitty Spriter...
U Want Better Quality Anims
im fixin dem up XD
okay, dude, you posted those for us to comment on, if you dont want us to comment on them then dont post them. the other thing is that spamming is when you post useless posts or many posts in a row like you just did. while it may seem like these dudes are being asshats everything they are saying is valid and helpful and you can learn from it. i would have loved to have tons of comments like there in my thread because it would help me to know what needs to be worked on with my sprites.
rubygoZX
if you want people not to "insult" you, I think it would help to stop posting multiple times in a row within a few minutes and overreacting. Honestly, no one here insulted you[eeerm besides Lern but he insults most people anyway]. Most users here are quite nice with giving criticism, and if you want to get anywhere spriting or doing any form of art, you will need to learn how to take criticism.
[fish in space]
03-07-10, 15:25
Hey Assholes Lets Get This Straight...
This Is My Fist Post!!!! So No Need To Go Mad!!!
Second My Laptop Doesnt Have Good Qaulity And Im Making These Anims On A Terrible Animation Studio
Third All Those Custom Sprites Are Mine And I Did Use Normal Sprites In The Anims So Just Fuck Off Ppl Im Still Getting Used To The Site Jeez
What Is Ur Problems
My Fist Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get It!
i wasn't mad
it doesn't matter what quality your laptop was, and i was critiquing the sprites, i don't care how well you can animate other peoples' shit (not very well btw!)
what does it being your first post have to do with your art skills anyway?
oh and don't type like an 8 year old or its a teensy bit hard to take you seriously
Don Kalypso
03-07-10, 15:28
Rubygo, I went ahead and took a look at your Youtube page, and I must say you need to read some tutorials on how to make your sprites better.
Mechanical Maniacs (http://www.themechanicalmaniacs.com/guides/spriteguide.php)
Neko's House (http://neko.crowdedstreet.net/)
Pikachu's Corner (http://www.freewebs.com/2332pikachu/spritingguides.htm)
Those should give you a good idea of where to begin on your journy toward becoming a spriting master.
Just remember to catch 'em all!
Edit: Don't style mix, even if they're the same bittage, it's just ugly and looks crappy.
You donīt put much effort into your sprites..do you?
Dude, you need to chill, the fuck, down
First off, yes this is your first time posting your sprites, however you need to understand something. No one is a master at first. In fact, nothing is perfect so you always can improve.
Now, what these members are doing is helping you, explaining to you what to do better. You however, are taking things out of proportion. What I think you need to do is ready what they say and do what they advise. Work on shading, portions, realistic movements with GIF's, and move on to some custom work.
[fish in space]
03-07-10, 19:04
yes, telling me to fuck off is clearly the best way to gain the respect and praise you deserve. well done, master of debate
wow I may be newb on this fourm but I've been spriting for about 2 years and you definitely need some work. First off it's not helping your case that people are telling you to stop spamming and then you continue to spam. Secondly you should really look at the spriting tuts that Don posted seriously and learn that even though some people may be more harsh than others pretty much everything they are saying is true and you need to learn to sift through the harshness you sense and get the the main meaning of what they are saying and use to to become better.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1082/guestpic.png
Hm, what would zero say when this happens...
Anyway, you should follow everyone's advice not matter how harsh, most of them are actually trying to help you.
Even though I'm a newbie...
Oy,this guy is more or less Similar to Jeffreygamecreator...but at least he was less Shittier than these Mockery of ZX Stuff (Trust me,i've seen way worse)
and yes my brother was way Shittier than that
Hey Assholes Lets Get This Straight...
This Is My Fist Post!!!! So No Need To Go Mad!!!
Second My Laptop Doesnt Have Good Qaulity And Im Making These Anims On A Terrible Animation Studio
Third All Those Custom Sprites Are Mine And I Did Use Normal Sprites In The Anims So Just Fuck Off Ppl Im Still Getting Used To The Site Jeez
What Is Ur Problems
My Fist Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get It!
You know what
I don't care if this isn't tSR.
No seriously read this. (http://www.spriters-resource.com/community/showthread.php?tid=13748)
It's not your "first post" and even if it is, get over yourself. No one is gonna sugarcoat it and pat you on the back for making shit. All the cirtisim here is legit and honest.
Some people will be nicer than others, but for the most part, people will be brutally honest with their cirt. This is a fact. Get over it. And no matter how they put it, if they're right, just listen to it and work on fixing it.
ok people i have an update and some non resized anims!!!
Ok I Know I Double Posted But Only Because It Wont Let Me Upload The Other File Unless I Do
BECAUSE of maximum file size limitations
i got given advice to add some spikes on his embows and knees who agrees on it?
also as you can see in the anim to the left his jetpack wobbles in the sword slash.... i fixed it
<-----
OK IVE EDITED THE POST AND ADDED THE SPRITE WITH KNEE SPIKES!(top one is spiked new one)
Still a Shitty Recolor with the model
Don Kalypso
24-07-10, 01:08
Blaze, shut.
Ruby, smidge of advice. I know I'm not the master of RMZX sprites, but I do know a thing or two about their shading. The thing I want to point out is the cannon looking buster addition near the bottom. To be honest it seems pillowshaded a little. I compared it to other rods I've seen and done myself. By the looks of it you tried to use the lightest teal of his armour alongside the lightest grey from his undersuit. Those two colours don't work together AT ALL. I would suggest using the darkest teal alongside the grey. I'll provide an example.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/Calypso2121/Example.png
You don't have to do exactly that, it's just a suggestion. Another suggestion would be to possibly change the arm he fires that cannon with to the other, so he's not exposing his back to the audience (Always a no-no in theatre and most games).
[fish in space]
24-07-10, 06:09
well, for one, the shading is almost nonexistent and it lacks an outline, which is a part of the zx style. second, the contrast is terrible and the colours lack any hue shifting or even anything remotely interesting with them. also, the head is too big for the body and, thematically, has nothing to do with the rest of the design.
lets try a new way of dealing with edits, guys!
think about it this way, if you made a rom hack or a fangame or if capcom hired you, would this character play in any way differently from the characters already in the game? would he
A)have his own attacks, special abilities, and ways of maneuvering the stages
or
B)just be a model zx clone?
IF YOUR ANSWER WAS A- good job, the odds of it being well sprited are still up in the air, but at least i can see you put some heart and effort into it and we have something to work with.
IF YOUR ANSWER WAS B- what is the point of the character existing? a skin swap has no purpose and is a waste of time for you and those you show it to.
now the sheet isn't done yet, so i can't necessarily say which one this sheet is, but so far i gotta say its leaning towards B.
THE LESSON- if you must edit, at least make some custom poses or make it a heavy edit so you're actually learning and making something that is your own as opposed to an alternate skin for an existing character.
ok new update i just randomly added another sprite and i know it is a crappy recolour so far but that will be my old sprites giga form!!
and the sprites human form is unfinished too just gimme time to edit the hair...
by the way can anyone mention some things i can add to make it look better?
Here's a list
More editing
less effects which look like 2 year olds made them
More modifications except for headswap+wings
I could name ten thousand for each of these 3 points, but I'd be wasting my own time on someone, which, if he hasn't thought of any on his own except for headswap and wings, isn't even probably worth my creativity.
is that a chick turning into your model? like python said, i think you should give the model some new poses, i think you should give it different sword attacks(you know, swing the saber a different direction) and to top it all off i think the chest should be changed into something more creative.as for the human i know she isnt done, but i think you should change the clothes along with the hair.
by the way can anyone mention some things i can add to make it look better?
well, for one, the shading is almost nonexistent and it lacks an outline, which is a part of the zx style. second, the contrast is terrible and the colours lack any hue shifting or even anything remotely interesting with them. also, the head is too big for the body and, thematically, has nothing to do with the rest of the design.
So, you need to add an outline. You need to increase the contrast in your colours, and possibly vary the hue more.
The colours look a bit "washed out" for ZX style too, so you might want to increase the Saturation/decrease the Lightness on various colours in differing amounts. Some customised frames would also be nice - a new attack set or something
Don Kalypso
24-07-10, 13:02
No offense, but great recap, Khelder. [/sarcasm]
As for the outline, you're incorrect. ZX style DOESN'T use an "outline" instead it uses the darkest shade of that particular colour to define its borders. So buzz off newb.
As for Lern, although I do not enjoy his short and abrupt style of giving Crit, he has a point or two to make every so often. He is correct about the effects, Ruby. They really don't look anything like RMZX effects. Take a look or two at other RMZX effects and how they're put together, then try to emulate them but with your own twist. You seem to enjoy the use of lightning and beams, so I'd suggest looking at the little hedgehog psudoroid in RMZXA and at the overall beam effects of both RMZX and RMZXA.
[fish in space]
24-07-10, 13:23
uhm calypso?
an outline doesn't have to be black
zx just has coloured outlines
sooo, yeah. everything khelder said was true.
Don Kalypso
24-07-10, 13:36
Then all he did was a small undetailed recap of what each person before him said. My explination of exactly the same concept had much more detail to it.
And I apologise for my assumption that he was talking of a dark outline, as is common practice in lower bittage and other styles, but when I think of an "outline" I, like MOST people, think of an extremely dark or extremely light line bordering the entire sprite's edges.
ZX style, and by extension ZXA, have a non-traditional "outline" with the darkest shade of the colour producing an "outline" or a definitive edge to the section. This is not an "outline" in the traditional sense, and as such can not be called an "outline."
Well, I was pointing out that he'd already been given the list that he'd then asked for. That was the first paragraph - hence it started with "So," Would "Thusly," have been easier for you to assertain my meaning?
Then, the second paragraph was a seperate analysis of the discontinuities with ZX colour theory.
As for the outline: Zero/ZX/BN/SF use an outline of reduced luminocity/a subtractive outline. It's not a solid-colour outline, but it's still a definitive border encircling the image.
Outline: Noun.
# A line marking the boundary of an object figure.
# The outer shape of an object or figure.
{EDIT} And, here's an example of what I meant by my comments:
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4022/proof.gif
[fish in space]
24-07-10, 16:38
there's a line on the outside, therefore, and by definition, an outline. a selective outline, but an outline nonetheless.
and anyway, he didn't listen to anything the first time it was said, so i think it needed repeating.
there's a line on the outside, therefore, and by definition, an outline. a selective outline, but an outline nonetheless.
and anyway, he didn't listen to anything the first time it was said, so i think it needed repeating.
there, I repeated it.
With some luck he'll actually read it this time.
Another note, why has no one noticed his arm sticking from his shoulder with the buster being much longer than his whole body? Like he's holding some polearm or spear...
I assumed it was some sort of extra-long Rifle Barrel, or something like that...
Perhaps a better point would be that the opening on the end is too wide, making the buster look as though it's cut at a chamfer. Only a couple of pixels off, but proportionatly that's quite a large and noticable mistake
Well, actually with that barrel length it's small - but still noticable XD
so khelder what ur saying is even though your a newbie i should do what you say....
ok i get what you mean but why did u use..... u know...nerd speak...
you dont need it! its just spriting...its not maths... but anyways ill be cutting that barrel down will i?
one thing though...im not changing the colours! im happy with them!
RyuReiatsu
28-07-10, 15:09
so khelder what ur saying is even though your a newbie i should do what you say....
ok i get what you mean but why did u use..... u know...nerd speak...
you dont need it! its just spriting...its not maths... but anyways ill be cutting that barrel down will i?
one thing though...im not changing the colours! im happy with them!
Nerd speak? Somebody needs braincheck, IMMEDIATELY. Not because he's ranked newbie that you should look down on him, you're just a regular. Ranks mean nothing at all. Compare Kalypso, Lern and I. I'm probably the worst of the three (laziness controls my life ;)) , yet I have the highest rank.
In any case, work on your grammar and sprites. I'm awaiting a cleaner post AND 'custom sprite' for the next time. Listen to them and work on your flaws already.
The question is
WHY AREN'T YOU USING NERDSPEAK?
YOUR CHATSPEAK IS TORTURING MY MIND.
And I see python was right.
there's a line on the outside, therefore, and by definition, an outline. a selective outline, but an outline nonetheless.
and anyway, he didn't listen to anything the first time it was said, so i think it needed repeating.
It does need constant repeating for him to notice.
Don Kalypso
28-07-10, 21:39
My rank has nothing to do with my capabilities. The fact that I've been spriting since I was in the seventh grade has something to do with my capabilities.
Over the years I've conducted a lot of my own research and testing with sprites and styles.
I know Ruby is a little rough around the edges, but he'll smooth out eventually. We all were noobish when we started.
Ruby, even though Felder is new to SI doesn't mean he's an utter noob. His experience in colour theory, from what I've seen thus far, means he's likely been in spriting for a while. I'd suggest you take his comments to heart. And don't be afraid to change your colour schemes often. I know you're dead-set on that kinda colour scheme, but you shouldn't be so dead-set that you totally ignore helpful comments regarding the contrast of your colour shades.
so khelder what ur saying is even though your a newbie i should do what you say....
Aaaand yet he has proven to be way smarter than you. Or at least has enough common sense not to talk like he's in a chatroom.
ok i get what you mean but why did u use..... u know...nerd speak...
you dont need it! its just spriting...its not maths... but anyways ill be cutting that barrel down will i?
Which "nerd speak"? The only words I can possibly see as being considered difficult to understand are "chamfer" and "pixel".
one thing though...im not changing the colours! im happy with them!
But
they suck. They lack contrast and are totally off style. Just get colors from actual ZX sprites. Recoloring the stuff you already have should take like, 5 minutes at most.
Here's some points
1. Khelder seems to know what he's talkin' about. If he's done these things before, then you should take the advice.
2. Proper english(what you call nerdspeak) > Your english. In addition, spriting is somewhat technical if you think about it.
3. The colors you used, as I can see, are bland, dull, and are lacking contrast. Khelder's version brightens it up a bit.
Just my two cents into this.
EDIT:
there's a line on the outside, therefore, and by definition, an outline. a selective outline, but an outline nonetheless.
and anyway, he didn't listen to anything the first time it was said, so i think it needed repeating.
It doesn't hurt to help him see this, right? Either that, or he's ignoring it completely.
Aaaand yet he has proven to be way smarter than you. Or at least has enough common sense not to talk like he's in a chatroom.
Which "nerd speak"? The only words I can possibly see as being considered difficult to understand are "chamfer" and "pixel".
But
they suck. They lack contrast and are totally off style. Just get colors from actual ZX sprites. Recoloring the stuff you already have should take like, 5 minutes at most.
HEY bitch these colours were from a friend im not getting rid of them most people like them ok IM NOT CHANGING THE COLOURS OF HOLLOW!!!!
unless you have a better colour palette BIATCH
lolz that was random
ok ill make it clear__sorry to that newbie about what i said before...OK everyone shut up with the "chatspeak" and "nerdspeak" comments ok ive had enough! this is a sprite post not a democracy post!
next: im not changing hollows colours i like them and so do a bunch of others
last: PIE
wow im glad i got that out!
[fish in space]
18-08-10, 23:11
it doesn't matter if your friend made the colours, and quite frankly it doesn't matter if you like them. unfortunately for everybody, quality is rarely subjective. if you want this piece of shit to look decent, i would really recommend listening to the people you asked to hear from in the first place. pushing them aside is ignorant and won't make your artwork look any better. anyway, about your typing, it isn't hard to type decently. you don't have to be perfect, but quite frankly, expecting everyone to decipher your post just because you think typing that way makes you cool or funny is kind of an assholish thing to do.
LOLSORANDUM YOU GENIUS OF COMEDY YOU
HEY bitch these colours were from a friend im not getting rid of them most people like them ok IM NOT CHANGING THE COLOURS OF HOLLOW!!!!
unless you have a better colour palette BIATCH
lolz that was random
ok ill make it clear__sorry to that newbie about what i said before...OK everyone shut up with the "chatspeak" and "nerdspeak" comments ok ive had enough! this is a sprite post not a democracy post!
next: im not changing hollows colours i like them and so do a bunch of others
last: PIE
wow im glad i got that out!
Your behavior is absolutely unacceptable. I suggest you quit being such an assclown. People are trying to give you help to improve your art, and though some of them might be dicks, they're helping none the less. Get your act together, or leave.
HEY bitch these colours were from a friend im not getting rid of them most people like them ok IM NOT CHANGING THE COLOURS OF HOLLOW!!!!
unless you have a better colour palette BIATCH
lolz that was random
ok ill make it clear__sorry to that newbie about what i said before...OK everyone shut up with the "chatspeak" and "nerdspeak" comments ok ive had enough! this is a sprite post not a democracy post!
next: im not changing hollows colours i like them and so do a bunch of others
last: PIE
wow im glad i got that out!
Oh my god wow.
You are literally the stupidest person I have come across in months.
Honestly the colors are shit. It doesn't matter if it's ZX style or Mega Man 1. Those are the worst colors for any sprite ever. Change them. Save the "My friend gave me these and other people like them!"bull shit because really they have no fucking clue where they're talking about.
If you're not willing to change the colors then it's probably best you just leave the god damn site and goback to your friends who will suck your ego cock.
I Have some advice
1.IMPROVE,Emphasis on Improve,Get Better with your work
HEY bitch these colours were from a friend im not getting rid of them most people like them ok IM NOT CHANGING THE COLOURS OF HOLLOW!!!!
unless you have a better colour palette BIATCH
lolz that was random
ok ill make it clear__sorry to that newbie about what i said before...OK everyone shut up with the "chatspeak" and "nerdspeak" comments ok ive had enough! this is a sprite post not a democracy post!
next: im not changing hollows colours i like them and so do a bunch of others
last: PIE
wow im glad i got that out!
http://i38.tinypic.com/dxllyg.gif
first of all, calling people "bitches" isn't going to help your [already horrible] reputation on this forum, which also means you're more likely to be given insulting remarks.
that been said, I would like you to show us some of those gentlemen who think those colors are good and, more important, show us their spriting abilities, which clearly overshadow the skills of anyone on this forum.
lastly, unless your friend is highly sensible and extremely insecure, I doubt he would get offended if you got some better colors for your sprite.
HEY bitch these colours were from a friend im not getting rid of them most people like them ok IM NOT CHANGING THE COLOURS OF HOLLOW!!!!
unless you have a better colour palette BIATCH
lolz that was random
ok ill make it clear__sorry to that newbie about what i said before...OK everyone shut up with the "chatspeak" and "nerdspeak" comments ok ive had enough! this is a sprite post not a democracy post!
next: im not changing hollows colours i like them and so do a bunch of others
last: PIE
wow im glad i got that out!
W-Wow.
I thought you were better than that.
Actually I don't think anyone could've the way you've been acting up until now.
Really?
Insulting others because of 100% reasonable requests from you, the request being as simple as making sprites which don't jump out of the screen, pick up a japanese knife and slice and dice your eyes?
Come on.
And really? Bitch? Can't you at least be more creative with your insults?
Also
Not only do we care that these colors are from a friend, but we also
don't care
Nor does he
You're the only one everyone is hating as of now
And the only one who's colors suck
and the only one who cares about the colors
we don't
we want them changed
Why don't you go insult me? :|
Next...
omgz j00 sez bitch egen lol so random
(I don't give a fuck if python already said this, and the way he did was genuine. I still had to say this too.)
Also
WHAT THE FUCK.
DOES DEMOCRACY HAVE TO DO
WITH US UNDERSTANDING THE SHIT YOU ARE TYPING
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
...I'm literally going to cry because of this guy soon. I'm going to lose all hope in the thing we call intarwebz.
Finally
So i herd. =/
(I still don't care)
Whoa-ly... Anyways.
The problem with the colors is that they're too similar, which makes them have less contrast. That, and they look downright ugly. In that case, I think your friend probably has some difficulty with color distinction, or just disregards the use of more unique colors, or probably has bad color taste. Doesn't matter how many of your friends like it, if it's bad, it's bad.
Also, since when was the quality of English a topic of democracy? Don't the rules say that proper grammar was needed? Why throw insults? Makes no sense.
And...Pie?! What are you on, boy?
i don't think it looks like zero... more like a chinese megaman
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