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hello everyone ^^ these are the First sprite edits (mostly fusions) I made :
(Please note: I am NOT good at spriting and Iīve never claimed I am, these are all beginner sprites if someone says they suck ok I can take that but please tell me what I should improve ^^)
http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/090/1/c/my_sprites_by_Natalman.png
This is Vent infected with the Nightmare Virus,but thanks to model X and Z he is "just" becoming some weird combination of an infected reploid ( since he got kybernetik upgrades inside him) and a normal human, also I am going to make a model out of this ^^
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/090/4/9/Killergreg_by_Natalman.png
This is my char Gregarmet in a different Version of himself ( as you can see he is combined with killermans soul ^^) sadly I just have one frame yet but I will update those in some days ^^
Please Rate and comment ^^
They're both cut and paste and the first one seems to be style mixing. I haven't seen that reploid in any Z or ZX game, so I'm assuming it's style mixing...
yeah I know ( the reploid is comes from MMX6 and is infected with the nightmare Virus ) but sadly I have no knowlage at spriting *sob* and I donīt know how to make sprite from scratch either ....
For help, go here. That's where I started.
http://themechanicalmaniacs.com/guides/spriteguide.php
It's not the best guide ever, but it's good for beginners. The best way to learn is to go out there and practice.
hehe irony I used that guide to make these sprites ^^ ... but sadly the way it shows how to make your own sprites from scratch is... a bit weird Oo.....
Update!: A new character enters the scene : http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/090/3/d/Verick_by_Natalman.png
His name is Verick and he is the dark clone of Vent ( now you know why he looks like a recolor but youīll see )also his creator is non other than master albert Oo( yes in my fan fiction story albert knew Vent an cloned him... resulting this guy ^^) he is in fact a Reploid that is COMPLETELY FUSED with Biometal model G ( Gregar) he doesnīt have any other form than this .... BUT he gotīs a weapon called the Gregar gun wich is VERY powerful^^ (pose and gun coming soon...)
(Creator note1. as you can see he is a character remodel ... donīt think "he is yust some damn recolor" because he isnīt even if it looks like it ^^
note2. Biometal G coming tommorow ..
note3. Gregar gun coming soon....aswell as itīs pose ^^
note4. I know his shoes need to be edited -.-
Fluttershy
30-03-08, 18:31
The shading on it is Horrible. You need to take a closer look at ZX sprites and see how it should be shaded. I mean, the pants have no shading at all. The whole thing needs an overhaul.
Gauntlet101010
30-03-08, 21:39
hehe irony I used that guide to make these sprites ^^ ... but sadly the way it shows how to make your own sprites from scratch is... a bit weird Oo.....
Yeah, I have really got to update that section. I haven't made a scratch sprite like that in years.
jace: I know I know -.- ( its just version 0.1 so .. to be honest i was going to edit his shirt anyway ^^so Iīm also gonna edit the rest ) BUT the Head is not changing ( I worked long on taht thing -.- )
grauntlet: jeyh that part needs an update or edit but the rest of the tutorial is pretty good... maybe with new sprites because those old sprites are bit simple donīt you think? ^^"""
UPDATE:!! Verick with some changes in shades and a some stripes on his pants ^^ (model G coming soon ^^...oh jeah I changed the story g means gospel now ^^""") http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/593/verrickrs9.png
That's actuallyreally cool. Barely noticable that the base was Vent. Good job.
Do you have an uplink for the smaller version? (not the zoomed in one)
Ok, what you need to do here is..
I can tell the pants are unedited versions of vents, just recolored.
So get your pallette (Colors)
And recolor vents pants, with the exact same shading as is already on there.
So, lightest color goes on his lightest color, darkest on his darkest, etc.
Get where Im going with this?
Barely noticable that the base was Vent.
Xterra, you're just bieng nice, right?
Anyways, we don't need the zoomed in version posted, and you still have no shading on the pants; the shirt is oddly shaded, too.
Xterra, you're just bieng nice, right?Yes, but you have to admit that he's improved greatly from his first post. Take a look at how much has improved. That's why I said what I said, and it's true too. I'm not talking about shapes, but design, and colors. It doesn't look like Vent. The physical stature, height, and hair though do, that's different.
@Drei: that on the shirt are not shades man thatīs megamans sign form EXE ^^"""
@novacrash: I know what a palett is dude Iīve been watching you guys for WEEKS before becoming a member ^^ and just to say that Iīm not finished with him anyway ( the pants really go on my nerves but well....)
@Xterra : jeah I will do that when Iīve got more sprites ^^
thanks for the comments everyone ^^ (and thanks for the critics too.....^^)
oh and.... UPDATE... again ?
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1218/verrickmodelgandgospelgbm2.png
OK first of the gun is not finished yet (in fact Iīm going to get a small version of gospelīs Head on it ) and second the shooting stance did actually not come out as I wanted so itīs going to change to ^^
EDIT: damn the right hand of the second shooting stance became red -.- (going to change it tomorrow -.-) oh and that in the middel is model G ^^ and actually those sprites arenīt zoomed in they are streched ^^ ( since I canīt really work with those small thingies of sprites since I need to see what I produced there ^^"""""" oh and those sprites were made BEFORE you posted the comments so I couldnīt change them ^^"""""""" also I decided to make the Gun look like a claw-like cannnon (You know those Flying CAnnon in ZXA ? those wich shoot just ones and fly away ... welll something like that just in black with green points ^^^)
Wow, I have to say, I really like you. Not in a wierd gay way, but your a pretty cool guy who seems to be able to accept criticism quite well... (much unlike myself when I started out here... >.>; ) Anyways... The new sprite looks pretty dang good! Alright well heres a few pointers...If your using MS Paint, then what you should do, is make the sprite just zooming in at first. Then when you post it up, post a normal sized and a large sized version, because most of us are used to smaller sprites. The model is a really cool idea...Though it's a tad large in comparison with the clone. The shading looks much better, but there is still room for improvement. The little emblem-y thingy on his shirt doesn't look centered...try to make it look not so straightforward to us viewers, angled is good ^_^. I really really can't stress enough how I like that gun so much, seriously! Now, theres this little puke-green colored strip in his hair...is that supposed to be a reploid ear, or is a mistake shade in there? Either way, it should either be removed or defined more as a reploid-ear-thingy. You should change the gold on him, make it a blue or purple, some sort of dark representation of him being..ya know, evil. Make his pupil a lighter shade of red, and the eye itself very slightly darker than white (not noticably) so you could use him against backgrounds without hassle..OH! just noticed you were working on changing his 'Bands" (The things 'round his ankles and wrists) to a darker red color,cool. Well I think that's it except...Make the background color a bit different, it's a little hard to look at...maybe a lighter,not brighter, shade of red...? Hope I helped you out though, and uh, since I just came back to SI, this is my formal welcome to you! ^_^
I jsut checked, and their is sub-pixelation on the sprite. Do not sprite with the sprite enlarged. The biometal is way too big, and that excuse for the chest is no good for the non-existent Zx style shading on the clothes. I don't think you should make poses before perfecting the sprite.
@saigo: thanks man Oo ( Iīm impressed that someone thinks that those sprites are THAT good Oo ) i will remake what I can^^ and wow thanks the gun is to be honest just Greyīs with gospels color pellet and the green points all over it Oo I will edit it and make another version that looks like a claw like cannon and then you guys will decide what I should keep ^^ and about the bands ... those are just those Vent has XD
@Drei: hmmm ... ok I will make it smaller ( to 100% agian since I use 200 % normally ) and just too say it... I believe that making sprites is not about perfection or something for me at least itīs just for fun ^^ ( to be honest all of my creations so far were last minute Ideas and if some people wouldnīt think that Vericks remake is acceptabel I would have stopped making it ^^") and also abotu the shading ... I donīt like makeing shades it can totally ruin the character since you nerver know what comes out o it -.-
ähhh question has someone seen a Megaman Xtrem1-2 Version of Vent somewhere ? (because Verick will go Xtrem too XD)
UPDATE and EDIT ....
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6536/verickandmodelgresizedcz4.png
Remind me to kill you guys for saying that I should resize the sprites -.- I had to TOTALLY REDO the sprites in the orginal size to mke this ( note Model G became more round because of minor pixel changes ^^) but anyways if you ask me they look better ( a comprehensiv between big and small shaded and not shaded ^^ ) what looks better to you small or big ? (I think the small looks better .... you can guess why XD)
well... They look different. What you should do is this to get what you want.
1)open MS paint and find the sprite your working on, make sure it is the smaller type.
2)Use the magnifying glass to magnify in, and then work on your sprite as you want to.
3) When your finished with it, zoom out, and you have a small version of the larger version you were working on.
4) Just post the smaller version, since: A) sketch/skew really modifies the sprite...not in a good way and B) if we want to see it bigger, we will zoom it our selves ;)
now, that model is really cool, but it looks way too big still...maybe, if you'd like, I can try my hand at making it a normal model size?
I did zoom in and out to work on it ^^ ( but still it was an ASS to make since itīs difficult to remake ) and jeah if you want to you can make the model smaller ^^ ... ( is it just me or does model Gīs form look like a pharao mask ? Oo) well I will use the small version as an avatar and make the sheet from now on .... but I also will have to decide what wapeons Verick gets ^^ ( and please answer! have you guys seen a Megaman Xtreme Sheet of Vent somewhere ? )
Fuzion Phoenix
05-04-08, 13:48
Dude, you need to fix the shading and make him look less like Vent.
Mind If I try to fix the shading?
Okay well... Heres my attempt at your model. The first one more closesly resembles the original, the second one is just my interpretation.
Edit #1) Dude, you need to fix the shading and make him look less like Vent.
Mind If I try to fix the shading?
He's a Vent clone.
@Fuzion: ok you can if you want ... you know the prob about the character is that he is supossed to look like vent so ^^"" actually my story is so structured that Verick slowly finds out why Vent looks so much like him ( or via versa ) but still thanks for the comment ^^
@Saigo : wow cool models ( I like the second one best ^^) and thanks I will use them for Verickīs Xtreme Version ^^
Fuzion Phoenix
05-04-08, 13:57
@Gregarmet, Okay, one second.
@saigo : cool now I can see the pixels like the should be ^^ ( before that they were blured ^^"") WHereīs the sheet of Vent in megaman Xtreme 2 ? ??
@fuzion: no stress man I have time ^^
I think I posted it as Jpeg firstly..is this any better?
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1092/gregarmetmodelsqp1.png (http://imageshack.us)
they are still cool so ... ähm where is Vents sheet of Megaman Xtreme 2?
*cough cough* I looked in the PD section of SI, but I couldn't find them...I coulda sworn they had them there...well...jeeze I can't remember the two people who made them for the LIFE of me!
well ... I will try making them myself but.... I donīt think that Iīm good enough for that yet ^^"""
Fuzion Phoenix
05-04-08, 14:13
I have returned with A reshaded Verick.
@Fuzion : cool one but... chrm have you seen the sign on the chest of my version ? well ... I canīt find it on this one ... but still thanks ^^
Fuzion Phoenix
05-04-08, 14:17
Oops, forgot it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some sprites to redo.
@fuzion : thanks ^^ ( I just want to ask.... is your ava based on kirby ? Oo)
I'd have to say that they don't exist, or you haven't looked.
Now, onto your sprites, that idea is very cliché, meaning it has been done so many times, it isn't a good/original idea. The fact he is a clone actually means he SHOULDN'T have the same clothes as Vent, but with the hair, maybe.
The sprite itself still doesn't have accurate shading. I can't really comment much on it, since you haven't posted much improvement.
@drei: really ? I havenīt seen any Vent clones running around here at all ( only Vent in different Biometalīs ) and just to say it .... I actually am not good an making things out of my head ( at least if it goes for character made from scratch ) so....
The general idea of a clone. Not a specific idea of a Vent clone.
I really think that you should try looking at something that interests you, and work around it for a charcter, if you want something odd. Me, I like clay, and I've made The Magical Pot, which is an entire character on it's own. But otherwise, look in the ZX section NPCs and ZX rips of NPCs for character ideas.
ANYWAYS. As far as vent clones can go, I think it looks good. You should edit the body to make it looks not so...cluttered. Make it plain, add the emblem, and THEN move to details. and you should take the one pixel that makes him have the vent shoulders, its really annoying ;)
I think I will try to make my own sprite from now on ... ( Verick was a last minute Idea anyway ) ....
ähm donīt ask where this thing came from because I have no clue Oo I was thinking about what drei said and was pasting and editing with no look on what I made and ... this came out : http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1646/gunnyys6.png
and well I called it gunny because .. well itīs agun with Feet so ^^""" but please donīt ask me what I was thinking when I made it because I donīt know it myself Oo
it's..different, but different is good. lol, it should have forms, like fefnirs gun, and then crafts gun >.<; well, the middle ones foot is a bit pointy.
It will have forms ^^ ( even thought that I first need to check wich look the best but I will make craftīs if you want ^^) and the middle one shows how strong the recoil is ^^
Well Here you have it the Kraft Gunny ( I know it looks strange but well I think itīs funny ^^) http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9752/kraftgunnyve2.png
I think I found my sprite Destiny ^^XD and It is supossed to look like that ( I mean the last frame ) because itīs the frame when the shot is fired and the one right is the one after the shot ^^
Coming up next: Transforming sprites and more Gunnys ^^
wow, it looks great? But I think that on these sprites, to differentiate them from what you used to create them, you should edit their colors a bit. OH OH OH! maybe you should make like an omega gunny!! that'd be hilarious. and don't forget fefnirs gun ^_^ keep it up Gregar
an Omega gunny ? lol you mean a gunny with megamans head ? ( since omega has three heads in one form and one of them is Xīs Head Oo )
no no no, I meant a gunny that's about Omega's size with like only weapon and busters and such from megaman games as body parts XD
shuu that would take Edits like heck Oo ( since the most weapons arenīt meant to fit on each other like you can see on the craft gunny Oo) EDIT: I could possibly make a character that uses weaponīs as his feet ^^""" but I donīt think it would look to great Oo
yeah. But it sure would be hilarious! so whats your next project?
That would be to create a chracter from scratch ^^"""" ( since I donīt know how to do that -.-)
UPDATE: This is the weirdest Idea I ever had Oo http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7070/alventwj5.png
DONīT THE HELL ASK WHERE THIS IDEA CAME FROM Oo I t just poped in my head and ... I like It ^^ EDIT: it shows diffrent Versions !!! so tell me wich you like best ^^
change the shoes a little to make them look like that guys, but don't just C&P them to vent and recolor him. and edit vents hair to make it look not so much like vent anymore... other than that looks good ^_^
ths shoes are a prob -.- since itīs not easy to make such small things look like you want them ^^ the hair will also change ^^
EDIT: new hair style ^^ http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3900/alventms1.png
Does anybody else getīs the DBZ feeling ? XD
REDIT: going to change front hair ^^
REREDIT: okay cloth edit ^^ the last two actually show 2 alternate versions of the clothes of this new character ( I will DEFENTLY make a sheet of this guy ^^ with unique Weapons and so on ^^ ) http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/182/alventpa8.png
just to tell you the first one shows the normal clothing ( I still need to edit the shoes -.-""""") and the second one shows another Eye version ( like alberts ) on the right you see albert normal self ^^
thanks ^^ Iīm going to make a Giro Version of this ^^( I donīt know wich I īm going to sheet but I think Iīm going to sheet GIroīs version ^^^)
UPDATE!!: Giro enters the scene ... or does he ? http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3445/alventlz6.png
To be honest ... I like Ventīs version more than that of Giro ... because Giro looks... idiotic in this suit ....oh and the shoes are badly pasted because... I was lazy ... and even if they wouldnīt be pasted .. it would still look idiotic ...Please C+C ^^
Cool sprites!
Everywhere you go, that's all you put. Cut it out, it doesn't help the spriter in any way, shape OR form. Just stop. Explain why you think they're cool...And gregar, it is like an aspiring sprite...the hair is still much too obvious.... Same with some other vent-ess things on him.
hmmm... I will edit it anyway ^^ ( and ad an transformation sprite since this form doesnīt fightīs ^^) oh and ... next gunny pack coming up tommorow ^^
"Al-vent"...cool name choice...heh.
As for whichever's best, Vent's suit of Albert looks more like Albert, while Giro's version looks more like a model. However, I do like the way Giro looks none-the-less. This is a huge step from the sprites you started showing us.
Great job so far on Alvent and Girbert.
hey those names were just some tests not the finals but thanks ^^ ( I think Iīm going to make a model Cy standing for Cyball ^^... but donīt think that he will look like cyball in small no he will look like many characters... because he will be able to change his apperance and attacks ^^ .... but it has one side effect ... all of those guys are GREEN .. and look like hologrammīsXD ... and he can be "bugged" by normal Items ^^ (It īwill turn him red and he will change his sprites radomly also his attacks will change in a radom pattern ... basicly he wonīt be able to control what attackīs he will use ^^ .... ) ... and maybe he is geting girbert as a model who knows ? XD EDIT: oh and ... the sprites I take for this thing will mostly be from the PD sprites section ^^ ... and in the bugged version he will change to as for example : Zero, omega ( in a darker red than zero) Protoman , Bass , Vile ... well pretty much anyone who can either walk jump and attack ^^ ( I know it cheap but with the right changing sprites it will look awsome ^^ ... but it will take some time since I have much to do ....)
ok first off this is not going to be a normal recolored character in fact this one is going to be a part of my soon to come up comics "the minor four" ( story will come soon to ..) this is a Deleuxe Galleon FIGHTER ( the first few sprites ) it is actually a Galleon cable of changin between many galleon weapons ( except for the galleon with the cannon since it looks ... dum...) well here the hunter form ... well three sprites of it ... http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9342/mmzxdeluxegalleonhunterqy8.png
oh and just to tell you what the minor four is all about the minor four tells the story about four minor "characters"( enemies... I still need names for them) who are stronger versions of certain mechanaloids and... well the are sick of being pushed around and decide to kill the ZX chars AND the MMZ and X characters ( who have been resurrected by a mysterios force*cougth*omega*cought*) well that is it ... or is it ? no there is going to be much more in this but.. your going to see ^^) and I decided to throw away the model Cy Idea since there are to many models around here already ^^"""...EDIT: this character is going to have some knee pads and other things so this isnīt the finished version ^^
hmmm... I donīt know what you guys think but I feel like Iīm having to many Ideas ^^"" http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4493/galleonmecharm7.png I call this thing the Galleon mecha ^^ ( I think it looks pretty cool )
well C+C the sprites please ^^EDIT: and why mecha you ask ? well all the parts look like their mechanic arm parts ^^ UPDATE: now itīs officaly not a recolor anymore ^^ I made some frames that show the Galleonmecha "spreading" his wingīs ^^REDIT: those frames are gonna be used for two things 1. flying .. what else XD 2. jumping jep you heard it he will be able to "charge jump" wich means that the longer he charges up the higher he can jump ^^
Zombiechao
19-04-08, 16:36
Yeah somebody does something about galleons finally! I always wanted to!
On to the sprites (or as I will now call it: OTTS) The colour choices aren't good. Stick with a basic standing pose untill you have fully figured out character design because then you won't have to spend long hours later recolouring and redisigning old sprites. Give him poses with his helmet on and with it off. Change his helmet so it looks different. Usually a helmet is the most unique thing on a zx sprite because the head is the most noticeable thing on a sprite. PS The galleons with motor bikes rock. Give him a custom motor bike when your done on the design. Also I always wanted to sprite a galleon with a bio-metal, so please don't do that. i'm okay if you do but if there is any way you can avoid it please do.
Edit: Use at least 2 different shades (preferable 3) on all your sprites, unless it is 8-bit style.
wow big comment dude Oo well thanks but ... sadly I am neither good at choosing colours nor on making things on my own ^^"" but I will try too make a new helmet but what do you mean with his helmet of ? thatīs just a galleon they donīt have something under their helmet if you mean that Oo anyway thankīs for the comment and... like I said iīm not making biometalīs since there so many of them already ^^"""
UPDATE: well ... a new head idea and a new color pallet ... I donīt know but ... well look for yourself .... http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5062/newgalleonlx9.png
C+C please ^^
Oddly enough that color pallete is pretty good.
(Not a fan of yellow)
The head is quite interesting. Almost a fusion between the patheon and a galeon head. Would be if the face was slighty more bubble looking.
Is the rest of the galleon going to be edited to match?
hmmm... maybe but well like I said before Iīm not good at things like that ^^""" but still I will give it a shot ^^EDIT: jeah the head was inspired by a phanteon and the galleons ^^ but still it looks alot better this way if you ask me Oo
I donīt know what you guys say but ... isnīt that Buster awsome ? Oo http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/6606/newgalleonnz3.png
Zombiechao
20-04-08, 18:38
Make it slightly longer and be able to do something special like a grapple, a taser, or a missle launcher or something otherwise theres not a lot of use makijng it look different.
Edit the claw things aren't at a good angle.
Definitely cooler. And now it can melee attack sorta.
Looks as if it is speciality buster rather than a standard on now..
Looks like a Beatle-Claw. Awesome!
But if you're going to do a new buster, why not alter EVERYTHING on it to be unique? Or at least match the new Beatle-Claw design? It still looks too much like a regular V-Pantheon, so I think you can make it better.
I will try and to edit the body... but it will take a long time I guess...
UPDATE: ok first of no one says that that was normal C+P because it DEFENETLY WASN`T -.- ( you donīt want to know how hard it is to get a damn hand out of a foot and then make the foot look normal again Oo) so here you can see what happend ^^ ( itīs just a progress pic the arm is going to change to make it fit the character ^^) @Xterra: I decided to leave the character with a more human design but still I will change alot of things ^^ http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5710/newgalleonej7.png
REUPDATEANDEDIT: A new helmet ( wich totally rox Oo ) has been added O.O http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8461/newgalleonbj9.png
tell me what you think what is better old or new ? ^^
NEW! Definitely the new head!
One of the cooler heads I've seen and even Matchs the Claw.
If you gave the rest of the body the same treatment... It would look awesome.
is it just me or is it starting to look like an elemental Galeon...
This is good, for a beginner.
I think that, on the bottom claw, you replace the darkest shade pixel that has two darkest shade pixels next to it, to a lighter shade. I also can't tell what the head is supposed to be.
@drei:actually man that is a mask ( sort of... ) it somehow reminds me of univers at war ....and one thing Iīve seen only two comments from you ( that actually "helped" in some kind of way) ... have you actually looked at my sprites ? the most are just minor improvmentīs compared to this character ... or made out of total borandom and .. just that you know it .. your "advice" of searching something I like wasnīt that usefull......well thanks for the comment...
@NDraxian0: well there is one problem dude ... I suck making feet*sob* the main body is also a problem since... well there are so many bodies that have already been made so itīs difficult to make a orginal body ^^""""" oh and would you like to be a part of my comic ? because well you inspired me to do many things with my character ^^ only if you want of course ^^
EDIT: I might give him another color pallet ... maybe red and black.... or well I will let you guys decide what looks cooler when Iīm finished ^^
UPDATE!!: I gave him a new chest plate and i few changes on the feet ^^ ( I like the new chest better than the old one ^^ )
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2241/newgalleonan5.png
REDIT: edited a mistake in the chest plate^^""" ( oh and before I forget it ... nearly all of my latest editīs have been made with hte same partīs Oo)
Much better. (the one on the far right, our right) That is amazingly good.
So much better than earlier, when I said he should look more unique.
@Xet: thanks Xet ... ähm same question to you would you like to be in my comic ? ( cameo, main role what ever you want ^^ )
Hey if you need a builder type sure.
The legs look drastically different with such a small edit.
And don't worry about sucking at feet... Very few make unique feet at all...
so an bad attempt would still be good.
you could even have a main role ( you would just need to use a "normal" enemy as a base for you character ^^ ) thanks anyway ^^ ... and do you know how to make attacks look effectfull ? ( like in ZZīs comic wich you might have watched so far ^^)
I decided that my galleon has his final style and Iīm starting to make the sprites for him ^^ I chose siarnaq to be my model for him ^^ ( just standing and walking sprites ^^) well here is the first of the idle stance sprites http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6823/newgalleonts2.png
oh and he has a name now I call him Xyphoros ^^EDIT: second pose is here ^^ C+C please ^^ REDIT: xyphoros is going to use something else to shoot witch ( his buster is just a meele weapon ^^ )
OK UPDATE.. or is it ? more an edit but meh ... since iīve been writing undead for about 3 day now I made this "update" my character is not going to use his "buster claw" to range attack his enemyīs no he is going to use this thing http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7935/newgalleoney1.png this thing is not an actual weapon ... it actually the modified key for his capsule thus if he uses it on a door lock or an other capsule lock the lock cracks and openīs instantly .. but what has that to do with a range weapon you ask ? well this thing is able to shoot energy bolts at enemyīs and completely destroy their CPU ... well it didnīt went out as I wanted it but... still pretty good ... C+C please ^^ Edit: jsut that you know this ... the hand was a PAIN to edit -.-
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7935/newgalleoney1.png
Hey, your character is becoming quite stylish! Even if its a recoloured-copy-pasted-heavily-edited-galleon, its design is refreshing. The only two things that bother me are
the fact you seem to have used the same piece for the helmet and the claw : its hardly seen at first sight, but you could edit them to make them more different.
the way hes holding his modified key in the leftmost sprite on the lower line : it isnt very menacing
While it still can be tweaked here and there, mostly using some anti-aliasing techniques
I think the next step for you should be to master the palette domain (or at least quickly learn the basics)
I checked the palette of your sprite, and unless my programme made a mistake, youre currently using 17colors. Usually, we try to stick with 15 colours (plus transparency).
Some of the colours youre using are quite close with each other (████ ; ████ ; ████), other are used just for few pixels (like the ██ which could be replaced by the ██).
You could merge them (i.e. choose one of the two in every pair) to have a 15colors palette, and even win free palette slots to add new colours or new shades of already used colours (for anti-aliasing purpose or to boost the contrasts)
Anyway, keep going on.
well darx about problem 2 that one was just the first try ( since I didnīt know how I should edit his hand) about problem 1 well like you said itīs really hard to tell that they were made form the same parts so Itīs going to stay like that ^^ and well about number three ... I will edit that ^^ well mostly because if I edit everything the sprite will look unshaded and pretty dull ....but thanks for the comment ^^ Edit: ok about the yellow and grennish colourīs ... If I edit those the character either looks to birght or to dark so ... I wonīt change it...
OK Update: well I tried some color changes on this char... ( for short I used all of omega zeroīs color palletīs (expect that from that three headed thing )) and made these edits ...before you say "there is an edit button you know !!" I somehow have to write it in new posts since if I edit my post no one reads them ( or nearly no one ...) well I know they look strange but well I like them ^^ .... http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/88/newgalleonea3.png
That wasn't what Darx meant.
Official ZX sprites use only 15 colors (Mostly; with a few exceptions)
What he meant was to reduce the number of colors used by replacing a few of the colors on the sprite with a few of the other colors on the sprite that are close enough to look the same.
Keep the yellow pallete. It suits the overall design.
And I'd raise up the buster-claw in the slumped pose.
hmmm... the prob is like I said that replacing those colors doesnīt makes much sense ( ok that black one but the rest meh no use at all...) welll thanks for the comment and I will rise the buster up a bit ... and NDraxian0 you didnīt looked in you inbox latly did you ? because I PMed you and dindīt get an answer by now :/
...let me make this sound simpler...
You have a green color, that's 90% the same with another green color. They look identical, but are 1 or 2 shades off, either lighter, or darker.
Simply make all the colors of green that look identical, really identical.
It might also be wise to see other ZxA golds and greens that would go better together. What you have now is good, but it can be even better than now.
And I don't understand how this couldn't make sense:Some of the colours youre using are quite close with each other (████ ; ████ ; ████), other are used just for few pixels (like the ██ which could be replaced by the ██).He even used colors, to give you a picture of those that were close, but not identical. All I did, was word it out, but I think his was better.
hmmm... I think I see what you mean ( but not because you just told me ... because I tried to recolor him and some color wich actually looked the same way stayed like they were even if they were supossed to change Oo )
Exactly...also, it bothers me that colored examples...and simpler words...
Did nothing. At least you now know from experience what we had meant.
jep but thanks anyway ^^ """ hmmm.... I still need some more characters for the comic .. and much more things .... like effectīs and stuff... I think I will need some help ^^""""" ( just to let you know xyphoros doesnīt represent me in the comic in fact he represenīs a friend of mine who... hrm... passed away from our world around one month ago... so my character will be someone else ...)
Ok first of all people Iīm back in the bio metal buissness ^^( I know I broke my own rule of not making any biometalīs anymore -.-"""") and this is my biometal OZX ... it actually representīs omega zeroīs three headed form and jeah it doesnīt looks to good but well Iīm going to make a character for it ^^ ( he will actually appear in the comic as one of the main characterīs ^^) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4071/modelozxhg2.png second .... Xyphoros is going to have something like a cameo in the comic by accedidently freeing the main characterīs (including mine ^^) but well... thatīs all...
How... Do you press the j key instead of the y key?
Anyways, It seemse like you recoloured and copyn'pasted the three biometals. Also, the three-headed thing doesn't make sense, since I am sure it onyl had TWO heads. More malformed fusion of Model X and Model Z would probably work better.
Is that Model O kissing X and Z!? Okay, but seriously, a horrible C+P job.
That doesn't look like a biometal at all, and doesn't have uniform color.
If you're going to sprite on OxZ triple megamerge model, look to CH first.
crimson hammer
01-05-08, 23:38
Um according to my standards, my previous model of triple megamerge of OXZ, is a total fail. However, I still won't permit my model being used without permission, so if it's my model you are using first you must show what you are using it for. Also, if you are thinking of making a OZX model yourself, just dont try to use mine as reference.
So I am okay with you making another model of OZX, just dont steal mine.
*Sigh*
You do not have rights to the name or idea of Model "OZX." I really don't think he's going to steal one of your sprites if he got it fro this forum.
And I know that you're fine with another Model "OZX," that post was really unnecessary.
As for the Biometal, as the others have said, it's a mere C+P. My suggestion would be to scratch it, as that would make it look more original.
crimson hammer
02-05-08, 02:22
*Sigh*
You do not have rights to the name or idea of Model "OZX." I really don't think he's going to steal one of your sprites if he got it fro this forum.
And I know that you're fine with another Model "OZX," that post was really unnecessary.
As for the Biometal, as the others have said, it's a mere C+P. My suggestion would be to scratch it, as that would make it look more original.
If you read carefully, then you would have understood that Im just saying he cant use MY Model of Omega's 2nd form.
I never said I wanted rights over the idea nor the name.
I'm just making sure he doesn't use MY model I made previously which I said that according to my standards NOW is bad.
I'm not saying he can't make another one, I just said I'm okay with him making it in response to Xterra
@drei: Omega had three heads in that form ( if you donīt believe me look at this : http://www.sprites-inc.co.uk/files/Zero/Zero3/Boss/FortressBoss/zero3_omega2sheet.gif see that thing on the left side of the flame wall ? well three guesses what that is .. Omegaīs third form without the Zero and X headīs and under that orange horn you can see a face and that is omegaīs face ^^)and about the j and y thing ... one of my bad habitīs is to spin those around sometimes.... @CH: dude how could I know that you made a model OXZ ? I mean look around.... this forum has hundrets of modelīs so searching one of them would be madness -.- ( and I only use characters that are from actual games as references ^^) @Zagaan: you said it man ^^ @xet: well it was a first try so itīs not finished yet ... EDIT: @ch: I saw your biometal now but ... it somehow reminds me of the silver omega not the with the three heads ^^ .... but still I wonīt use it as reference ....
That's a stupid retarded excuse to C+P three heads on to a model.
I understand what you mean, but you did it all wrong.
Instead of a black ModelO, with a sideways X and Z, you should have:1.Re-sprited a new model, in the shape of the middle head.2.Then add two smaller heads to the bottom side under the middle one, and color one red, and the other blue. This would be more appropriate.
Ok ok geez I know that it is a stupid excause ok ? I īm actually making a new one already .... and actually model Oīs color pallet is based of the headīs color pallet ...
and actually model Oīs color pallet is based of the headīs color palletI already mentioned that with the "black" O.
well anywayīs itīs darn hard to get that big head formed into that small biometal-.- but well I will try ....EDIT: before you guyīs say "it sucks" I made this one 2-3 minutes after the first one so it could still be ugly like heck but well... I would have hated myself if I wouldnīt try to make it better..... the try from today will be uploaded later... http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8500/unbenanntcq9.png
(please note it is NOT supossed to look cool or anything I just wanted to show it to you guyīs ....)
It's actually a lot better than what you did earlier.
And it isn't that hard to make small heads. Remove most of the bulk above, to make it more round like Omega's shoulders. So they're rounder models.
Then you can keep the center model taller, and with a spike.
Then make sure you color the shoulders appropriately, and you're done.
The Sian Random Man
02-05-08, 13:41
well anywayīs itīs darn hard to get that big head formed into that small biometal-.- but well I will try ....EDIT: before you guyīs say "it sucks" I made this one 2-3 minutes after the first one so it could still be ugly like heck but well... I would have hated myself if I wouldnīt try to make it better..... the try from today will be uploaded later... http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8500/unbenanntcq9.png
(please note it is NOT supossed to look cool or anything I just wanted to show it to you guyīs ....)
What... is it?
hrm model OZX like I stated a bit earlier on the last page ...
@xet: I made a new model O but it somehow looks like a mix between a samurai and beetle Oo EDIT: Ok here is the O part of OZX ( trust me itīs darn hard to make a model from scratch Oo http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/816/modeloep4.png
darn hard to make a model from scratch Oo http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/816/modeloep4.pngNot really, but you're doing so much better now.
I still think it looks like a Samurai Helmet Oo but well thatīs how the head would look like if looks straight at you (I think...)
The Sian Random Man
02-05-08, 20:23
hrm model OZX like I stated a bit earlier on the last page ...
@xet: I made a new model O but it somehow looks like a mix between a samurai and beetle Oo EDIT: Ok here is the O part of OZX ( trust me itīs darn hard to make a model from scratch Oo http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/816/modeloep4.png
2 comments:
1. It looks like MIDNA from TP. I have never seen any resemblance between MIDNA and OMEGA.
Not even the names resemble each other D:
2.Not really. And it doesn't even look like a samurai helmet.
Want my suggestion?
Scratch it from the start again D:
DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO MAKE THIS THING ? Oo I worked around 2 Hourīs for this -.- I wonīt change it since itīs my first scratch made sprite ^^"" and just where do you actually see a resemblence to midna ? Midna is greenish and black not gray and red -.-( and midnaīs mask has only one Eye not two -.-)
The Sian Random Man
02-05-08, 20:38
...What?
Midna is black/white and has red hair and green lines. Without the green lines, we see what you made. Besides, midnas mask? WTF? I'm talking about her face, not the fused shadows/crowns.
well where do you see hornīs in midnaīs face ? ( the fused shadow may has one but midna herself doesnīt -.- and I call it a mask since you actually donīt have to find it and midna wears it all the time -.-)
The Sian Random Man
02-05-08, 20:42
she wears no mask? It's part of her/a crown?
And yes, the crown has 2 horns, 1 is broken but thats not the point. Just understand that it does NOT look like omega -.-
It does look like Midna, wearing the fused shadow. It isn't really a mask, but it can be called that, no matter how much of a mask it isn't.
Also, you've inspired me to make a model.
Ok here is the O part of OZX
Canīt you read ? Itīs just a PART of the model the other two will come tommorow and then it will look different -.- and one thing ... since when does Midna has a third eye ?
@drei: good to know ^^
EDIT: ALRIGHT I will remake it BUT remind me to rip off the head of anyone who sayīs that the one Iīm uploading tomorrow looks like Midna -.-
UPEDITXD : The omega modelīs are now nearly finished and ready to be used on a character ^^http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6370/theomegamodelszr3.png
Ok first one one the right side upper row is the "three headed" omega model itīs different from the last one but I like it ^^ (please note itīs still just a part of the actual model the other parts will be uploaded today ^^) in the second row are two new omega modelīs of mine ( both made form total scratch ...) the left one is a bit of thanks to the hair I īve added .... well now the question comes up " why are you making more than one omega model ? " well because I thought of the so called "container modelīs " omegaīs actual body was locked away in the armorīs he was wearing right ? well this is the same one model containes the other one thatīs why I made all of them ^^ ....
UPDATE: Ok this is my character Ceron using one of his 4 Biometalīs Model SO (silver omega ) http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7820/modelsocerongp7.png
Character biography: Ceron and all of the Omega Biometalīs ( like they will be called in the comic) have all been created by "them" ( who "them/they" are? you will find out in the comic .. but .. prepare for a shock ...) Ceron is actually created from the DNA of a fallen comrand of "them" and also from the Battle data of Omega ... He know everything about the biometalīs ... expect how they are created and who made him ...
ok I know itīs a Giro copy but still a different character ( since Giro only uses 1 Biometal and so doesnīt has so much weaponīs ) also I used Sovietcommandoīs OZ for color references but still it looks... kinda cool doesnīt it ? ( I personaly love the Visor Oo)
Zombiechao
03-05-08, 15:51
Looks over the color limit/
Edit: Please show pallete.
sorry I canīt ( Iīm not home right now ^^""") but I looked over it earlier it has around 15 colors ^^( could be 16 I will look over it again once Iīm home ^^)
I like the round Model X and Z as the shoulders. Those are good.
And you made the regular Model O look more like Omega's final form.
As for this new Ceron character: Good start, but his head still looks too much like Giro when rocked-on. I think you need a helmet over his face, not a visor.
the problem with the helmet is ... I canīt seem to find the right form thatīs why I made the Visor -.- ( oh and I noticed .. to much red on the "shirt" of the rocked on version -.- ) and about model O ... I made that because I wanted it to be something like a final form ( for the comic and besides that ... I alwayīs noticed the similarity so I finally could show it of XD)
What do you mean "you can't find the right form"? It's on SI's MmZero page.
no I mean if I try to make it fit onto my character it doesnīt looks good ^^""
Well, then custom make one. Right now, It looks too much like Giro, and is as shrot as the main characters. Which isn't original, as we can see MANY more people are taller than them.
heh if it was as easy as you say it -.- first of if I would make him bigger it wouldnīt fit with the planīs I have for him and second I would have to rewrite my story totally (...again ..) and Iīm not gonna rerewrite a over 20 pages long story and script -.- and havenīt read it ? HE IS a main character @xet: I can be honest canīt I? I personally believe that Helmetīs are overrated since ... well how many characterīs wear helmetīs ? around 1000 ? I donīt see to many characterīs that wear only a Visor ( expect for Giro ...) but well I will make the helmet .... maybe.... EDIT: I decided what I will do ... I will give him a different hair style ^^ ( since thatīs the best way... I can keep my Visor ...and it looks more unique ^^ )
Having a character that looks like Giro, and wears a visor isn't very original.
You can't use the "too many guys with helmets" excuse when you're spriting with Giro. The whole point that makes it more unique is to have Giro in a helmet. I can understand X/H/L/P/F/Zx edits having visors, but not Z.
That's why you need a helmet. Make one.
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT sheesh I think your the only person around here that actually makes me change things on my characterīs ... ( but I will not change his size -.- ) anyway wait until tomorrow and I will upload it ( like I said Iīm not at home ..)
Actually... I like the design of the visor... Maybe you could just raise the visor up so it becomes a strange metal headband... or lower it and make it a collar...
You know... I don't think there has been a model made that lacks headgear...
It's so much easier to review sprites when they're on the Avatar.
I agree with Xterra about the Visor/Helmet thing. BUT I like the sprite apart from that.
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I like the Nightmare Vent. Very.... Erm.. There isn't a word for it. If you plan to finish that, I'd do something to the feet. I like how you can still tell it's Vent, but at the same time it's something else.
I'm not entirely sure about Verrick..
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Lol gunny.
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Model Albert. LITERALLY. Seriously that is creepy but very good.
The Giro one looks very evil. But the suit fits vent better.
I was going to do more. But.. I got bored. Sorry.
You have potential. Try being adventurous, sometimes someone suggests something and you say- "I don't think I'm good enough for that". If you like an idea, whether or not you think you're good enough, try it.
Unless it's something really REALLY hard.
I don't think there has been a model made that lacks headgear...There is. And for it to be Omega, there must be a visor, but it also has to have Omega's top half of the helmet with the visor.
Otherwise, it's a crappy version of S.C.'s Oz.
@Nd: heh thanks for that comment and ... you dont want to know how long it took to make this thing Oo
@Grav: about the Nightmare vent... I think it was the biggest mistake I ever made Oo about the gunnyīs .. well they were a pretty funny#( and totally random ) idea ( I thought to make them a replacement for the metīs )
about model Albert like you call it ... you have the same opinoin as I have ^^ about Ceron ... the normal human form will stay like this no matter what but ... your right the Visor reminds me that itīs Giro as a base.... so I will make a Helmet that looks like Omega ^^
@Xet: ouch ....
@Xet: ouch ....An Omega model has already been made from using Giro as the base, and there's a visor on him: (this is SovietCommando's Oz sprite)
http://www.sprites-inc.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2727&d=1165620977
I want yours to become more unique, and different. Having Giro be Omega, and have only the visor, and no helmet at all, isn't good enough.
You can do better than that. Try and sprite a helmet over the visor.
You can keep the hair like Giro's, coming from behind the helmet, and not over the top, but at least have the helmet top on him.
I know that that model Exists xet XD ( I said it already I used Soviets as color reference XD)
Why do you call me Xet? To the furthest of my knowledge we are not friends.
And I see you're doing better with grammar, which is very good indeed.
Now if you can just make him more unique than that. Perfect.
hehe sorry but it getīs annoying writing Names fully ( exspecially since many people havenames that are long as heck -.- I donīt mean you ^^""")
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5741/modelsoceronvj7.png
OK I made the Helmet ... and itīs not as good as I thought -.- ( it somehow reminds me of siarnaq Oo) EDIT: reshaded Helmet and with color pallete ^^ ( exactly 15 colorīs like I said before^^)
The Sian Random Man
04-05-08, 12:26
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5741/modelsoceronvj7.png
OK I made the Helmet ... and itīs not as good as I thought -.- ( it somehow reminds me of siarnaq Oo) EDIT: reshaded Helmet and with color pallete ^^ ( exactly 15 colorīs like I said before^^)
IT BURNS US! IT BURNS US!!!
Alright it's not that bad but its crappy, truly.
A: The omega models looks better, Although the top one looks like falling crap, and the bottom omega first/second form model looked like midna because of the hair.
SURRENDER. IT IS MIDNA.
B: The giro edit is too... Well normal. It's not original at all. The model looks weird, I dont understand it at all, and the helmet just made it suck D:
Form the pallete, I see two redundant shades, giving you space for another colour. The helmet is shaped oddly, and what it is to be is a mystery to me.
@Sian: *rippssianīsheadoff* *changesheadrippingcountto1*Donīt blame me for the helmet I didnīt wanted to make one in first place -.- and ... midnaīs hair in orange and brown not pink -.- and about the first model .. well thatīs not my fault you were the one saying I should change it -.-
@Drei: well try to make a Helmet of a 4,5 meter high machine of terror fit on a normal human sized character -.- ( and make it look like a Helmet -.- ) seriously I hate the Helmet but I canīt do better -.- ( I will try again but donīt blame me if it looks even more like scrap metal -.-) hmmm... I will try something I forgot to try before wait some minutes...
UP... ahh forget it just look -. - http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7979/modelsoceronmu1.png
you know I somehow think I should use model X as a base rather than model Z -. - ( I tried to fix the Helmet by making it a combo of Ceronīs face and slightly edited version of the old one .... I still hate making Helmetīs....)now that I look at the Helmet ... it remindīs me of a dinosaur head -.- REDIT: Is it just me or does the "helmet" or wathever I made there better fit on model X than on Z? Oo :\
OK guyīs change in planīs -.- ( my PC died three dayīs ago while I was trying to change the crime that you saw in my last post -.-) so all the pics of this... thing are gone and here is my new idea ^^ http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2347/omegakididlerj2.png I call him the Omega kid ^^( I donīt know but he somehow is more my style than any model Oo I could make ) well since the sprites of ceron werenīt the only thing that got lost ...( ... the script and the backstory of my comic died too -.- ) this little guy will represent me from now on ^^ ... if you guyīs find something odd or he breaks the color limit tell me ^^ EDIT: I made the balck outline so it has more contrast ^^"""C+C please^^^^^^
OK since Iīve been writing undead by now .. I decided to upload it with fixed colorīs and a color pallet ^^ http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8752/omegakididlepw3.png
Please comment ^^ EDIT: oh and before someone ask why this character is a kid ... well I think that you might have noticed that most of the Megaman main characterīs look like their 17 or older ( at least X,Z, and ZX Oo) so I thought: why no child as a hero ? well thatīs were the idea is from ^^)
MegaMan is meant to be a child, and X, prepubescent teen. Zero, slightly older, then we have ZX, with mainly younger heros, though around Zero's age.
Anywyas, it seems that you have a solid outline. Which is not in style. Make another shade for the white, or use a grey for the outer areas, but not hte darkest. I really don't like the farther arm, it looks odd. The feet are not shaded correctly, either.
hmmm... I will do some reshades.... but not today ^^....
UPDATE AND REAWAKINING ^^: Since Iīve been playing SSBBīs subspace emissary latly and always wanted to make a character that uses the dark cannon ( or trophy gun like I like to call it ^^) I created this little dude ^^( who is actually going to be me from now on and is going to be sheeted ^^ http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9986/elementarspawnau1.png
Character biography: A creature of unknown origin. It seems to talk via the strange glow it constantly emits. It has an inbuilt Dark cannon and is also able to change colors when touching elementīs ...
The dark gun or whatever it's called is oddly shaped, it's facing either sideways or towards the screen, which the floaty thing of doom isn't.
That grey glow looks kinda weird. Good weird, but still weird.
I know the gunīs is pretty weir ( will change it ASAP ^^) but thanks finally someone replyīs ^^
Its evil-cute. And freaking awesome.
Gives off a nice dark feel.
Is the face supposed to be orb like? It may or may not look better with more shine.
jep ^^ ( about the orb like look ^^) and here is a big UPDATE: http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/681/elementarspawnry0.png
before you say something gravitee you should know that the gun looks like this in the real game http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Image:DarkCannon.JPG
I show you that because if you look at the side of the gun it looks very similiar to the new version of mine ^^ abotu the update : the gun now has 3 different modes ( still need names for them ) and also a new look ( before you ask the beam isnīt supossed to look like that itīs just version 0.1 ^^"") the crystal like thing on the right side is supossed to be supspace in itīs beta form aswell as the explosion in the midle...
OK UPDATE : I made a close combat version of my subspacer ( like I will call him for now ) before someone asks about it ... I have been watching jackie chan adventures latly and saw those shadowkhan tribes called razor khanīs ( wich have claw-like handīs and thin legs ) and thought "hey why not make the subspacer have some shadowkhan tribe abilities ? " well this is what came out : http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2664/elementarspawnvx3.png
I just want to say that that is the first time I made legs and a arm totally from scratch ^^"" so tell me if something is wrong with it ok ? C+C please ^^
The gun doesn't look weird because it's different to the game, it looks weird because the flying thing is pointing forwards but facing slightly towards the screen.- IE
If the screen is here
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Kinda like that. It's facing diagonally towards the screen, the gun is completely side on.
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It doesn't look right.
In other news I suck at demonstrating this kinda stuff.
Oh I think I know what you mean ... but I just THINK I know ... and I think it could look that weird because of the shading .... but well ^^"" well what do you say to the rest ?
Ok for a funny moment : http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5950/alittlescetchyb6.png
I was bored so I created a scetch with my subspacer ( using a human as a host ) and a newer version of my model O ( wich this time looks alot better than last time Oo) EDIT: before you ask why the tentacle like end of the subspacer is in the scene well... look at the right arm you will see that it is trying tu pull down the human hand ! Why ? Well the human he took as host is a fighter and doesnīt wants him to be in his mind and body ^^ )
SpeedReemix
18-05-08, 10:50
like that spider creatures from half-life series.
ähhh sorry but could you please write a complete sentence ? But anyway thanks for the comment ^^
It is a complete sentence. Your "subspacers" are mimicking Head-Crabs from the Half-Life series, and SpeedReemix was merely pointing that out.
oh sorry but the I was in a rush so I could have fogotten to read it so.. do you guys think I should sheet the human form or not ?
Subspacers look cute. And evil. ADORABLE EVIL! MWAHAHAHAHAHA! *Hahem* I think a human form would look cool.
I actually am making the standing poses now ^^ ( and I think I know who is going to be subspacerīs host *mehehe* I give you guys a hint he was one of my failed experiments in the beginning and my actual first attemp to make a character he looks VERY similar to Vent ^^)
Verick, right.
Don't. Verick is a bad recolour of Vent, with very few edits. Make up a heavily edited character from the NPCs of Advent, or make a scratch character.
hmmm good ... Verick is gregarīs host anyway so it wouldnīt fit with the eternal oder of the subspace anyway XD
OK a try on the host of the subspacer ( just to let you know he will only have one appereance and that is in the first page so I wonīt need more than two sprites for him ^^... and he is just PARTLY edited not heavily ...) http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8312/subspacerhostvt3.png well
this is it ( the only thing that actually changed were the hair and his color pallet....
New things and some updates: first is a new version of the dark cannon second is a parody to a character from Battleon ( adventures quest ) a 2-d browser RPG ^^http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9630/darkcannonrb1.png
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/3222/verickavatarcz6.png
EDIT: none of these things are final yet so they will change in near future C+C please ..
I used to play AQ, but I don't reckognise him.
Must be new..
The sprite still looks alot like vent, try to add a point to the shoes like the original and maybe unbaggify the trousers if you know what I mean.
jeah I know ^^ ( and jep he is new ... do you know the devourer saga ? he is the Galin ^^ ) anyway what about the dark cannon ? (..just to let you know... I might will make a cosplay contest for vent and alia dressing up as pseudoroidīs ... or maybe not who knowīs ^^ I made two versions already ... Vent dressing up like prometheus and vent as argoyle ^^)
OK update: I `M FOR BRAWL XD joke well this is my new me http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4360/shigazenbm5.png
I actually wanted to call him Shikazen but sadly the k became a g ( donīask how that happened-.-) and I have to say ....I like the world ends with youīs style since even a small changes like a different hair color can create totally new characters Oo well please C+C on him ^^
Zombiechao
25-05-08, 13:40
Moar contrast!!!!!!!! Why the hell is he wearing shorts!!!!!????
beacuse neku does ( you from all people has to ask that question ... you were the one who gave me the idea in first place ) anywho the contrast is a thing that you always seem to bring up zombie -.- I personally think that the character is good as it is .. maxbe some red pointīs on the wings.... anyway I will see what I can do....
Zombiechao
25-05-08, 13:54
Well... ...I just don't think shorts fit the general theme your going with for your character. Shorts suggest casual, everyday, physical activity. I mean if your going for really evil, he could be a *gym teacher but personnely I wouldn't make him that evil and I'd make a more serious type of evil guy. By contrast I mean between the shades of black.
*Strictly a fanciful jest. No offense to actual gym teachers. i know you push people to get them to do better even if it seems a tad sadistic.
yeah well the thing is ... if it goes for clothing ( and hair ) Iīm a total failure -.- and second the shades ( if you look at them with the magnifying galss ) are quiet different ^^ EDIT: oh you meant the wings right ? because I havenīt changed those at all ^^"""
OK edit on shigazen: what changed is the shading of the shorts and a bit of the wings aswell as the hair gained a more redish like color ^^... http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/38/shigazentm8.png
you will see the difference on the shorts ...
Zombiechao
25-05-08, 14:32
and second the shades ( if you look at them with the magnifying galss ) are quiet different That is so silly I'm putting it in my signature. Nobody is going to use a magnifying glass.
Edit: On second thought I might get warned if I put it in my sig. If it weren't for those medling kids mods.
well sorry that I was in a rush writing that -.-""" ( I actually meant that of microsoft paint -.-)EDIT: and you didnīt even comment on the edit of the sprite shame on you zombie.....
If you need to make the sprite bigger to see the shades, you've messed up the contrast. So, more contrast, and either no shorts or non-bone skinny legs.
Seriously, I can't judge what it is. And that isn't good.
turpinator
26-05-08, 00:04
Limbs ARE that skinny in that game, Drei.
@drei: have you ever seen orginal sprites of the game drei ? I think not because the legs and generally the limbs of the characterīs are thin ( if you donīt believe it here : http://sdb.drshnaps.com/sheets/Misc/Square/Other/IAWW/Neku.png
Those are actual ingame sprites of neku (not ripped by me ...) Here for gods sake : http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/3483/unbenanntny0.png
There happy now ? I made a different skin tone aswell since you were right with the thing about the contrast .... anywho I also made two dash sprites...and ... is that enough contrast ?
Zombiechao
27-05-08, 00:24
Its too messy. Clean up the design and help us distinguish the shirt from the the shorts. Also patterns arn't the best idea for sprites. Try useing shapes and forms as opposed to random decoration.
Karnstantine
27-05-08, 00:50
New things and some updates: first is a new version of the dark cannon second is a parody to a character from Battleon ( adventures quest ) a 2-d browser RPG ^^http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9630/darkcannonrb1.png
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/3222/verickavatarcz6.png
EDIT: none of these things are final yet so they will change in near future C+C please ..
Holy crap! Ryuusei Cartwright?!
Your coloring job is a bit funky, and you've forgotten the embroidery on his clothing.
@Zombiechao: I will work on it I just happy to see that you stopped yelling contrast ^^
@Karnstantine: yeah but I wonīt work on him anymore since I think the Kingdom hearts chain of memories and the world ends with you style is somehow better for me ^^
OK another try and a fun thing I made: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5628/betterbg4.png
EDIT: the psyche fox was for a non good reason and is nothing more than some random recolor I made .... The shigazen sprite didnīt change much but I think it is easier to tell shorts and shirt apart now ^^
DOGHEADMAN
Sorry. I felt like shouting about something.
The head looks good, but the rest of it looks too much like whatever that guy is called that you used as a base, well, to me anyway.
I might use this idea for my character hmmm.... I could really use a mask ...they make you mystical donīt they ? ......XD
Ok here comes the fox Fighter 0.1 ^^ http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1188/betterbx7.png
OK update: new name and reshading of mask and well anything else ^^""" here he is the PSYCHE FIGHTER : http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1442/psychefighterce5.pngPlease C+C and tell me if I made something wrong ^^
and BUMM: here is the psyche figther UPDATE : http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6823/psychefightersj2.png added Heartless mode ( wich looks awsome Oo)
Name ti something else dude. "heartless" mode osunds liek some Kingdom Hearts rip-off. it looks great though. In the sprite where he's looking forward the "snout" of the mask could be elongated. In the first sprite first row, as well as the Heartless sprite, the sprites right foot looks a little too square too. The last two sprites in the second row's hands look like he's only got three fingers. The knee on the last sprite/first row is kinda...awkward. That all I see wron,g keep it up.
I thougth of another already ^^ ( I call it "soul less" form ) he will have two more forms ("soul" form and "psycho" form ^^)
Dude, youīve created Psycho Mantis with a fox Mask...I like it
"Heartless" mode does look awesome. The regular character's design is good, but it's a bit weird to have that mask on a human. Heartless mode makes him look more animalistic, and no longer human. Reminds me of some pokemon...
But in a good way.
Though I do have an issue with his front-facing pose. His mask in that frame looks too wide, and barely noticable as the one that is at an angle.
Also, why is more hair shown in that frame, when the other poses clearly show that less hair should be visible from his front when you look at him.
@black: letīs just say ... I was bored to death ^^"""
@Xterra: you will wonder how much animalistic he will be in Psycho form Oo ( I thought of making him greenish or blue but I also thought of a coloric mix to make him look totally crazy Oo) and you forget in the sideway poses you donīt see whatīs between the ears ^^"" thatīs why it looks like that ^^ (I will change it if you want ^^ )and it might remind you of Lucario ( since it has the strange aura around the hand and is also fox like ^^)
@saigo: I did the thing with the three Finger like look of the hand on puposse because I wanted it to look claw-like since he is actually no human ^^
Why not switch the Soulless mode colors? (E.G Yellow as main and black as trims and stuff?)
Or maybe switch the normal colors.. Red and Black as sub always makes things look chaotic.
hmmm would work too I guess ( I will try but not now Iīm to tired for that ...) anyway Iīm starting with my comic in ner future ( that is if I īm finally able to figure out how to make the text at the right size -.-)EDIT: just to let you know I could use some help with a certain claw attack ( a very rapid one ) since Iīm normally not good at scratching ....
UPDATE: NOW you will see what "overpowered" means Oo:http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2685/pschefighterformsxw1.png
I made alot more forms than intended ... 1. row: soulless,soul,psycho form 2.row: ( not really needed row)
3. row Warrock,Purify,Sol,Vamp form ( I went a bit to far I guess ? o.O )EDIT: oh and saigo the knee is supossed to be like that ( since the world ends with you has skinny characterīs ^^)
My favorite palettes out of the listing are:
Heartless Mode
WarRock's palette
Vampire Django's palette
To me, those look the best.
same here ^^ ( I think I will make a different "mask"for those like warrockīs face for warrock form ^^)EDIT: warrockīs pallet ... did anyone watch the movie Tron ? it somehow reminds me of it Oo
NEW CHARACTER ARRIVES.... with no actual style Oo: http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3146/cyborgcatxp7.png
20 cockies for the one who can tell me from what show this character is from ^^ ( oh and ... I scratched it ^^ even if the pose is used often in the manga ^^)EDIT: made new things like machine gun and some other things ( everything is scratched BUT the poses are taken from the manga ^^)also I fixed the red eye thing ( doesnīt fit them seriously ) and just to tell you they are purpossly made to look a bit unshaped ( since the headīs arenīt round in the manga either ^^
It would be so much easier if it was assembled. Right now I can't tell what it is.
Actually I probably wouldn't know anyway. Nevermind.
UPDATE on the new guy: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2429/cyborgcatqa8.png
things added/changed : custom color pallete aswell as custom made parts for swimming and flying ^^ removed all oversized partīs of the image
Zombiechao
01-06-08, 14:37
Uhh please put a pallete swatch in the picture. Pleas change the color of his head a bit so we can tel it apart from the bdoy. Make the arms more distinct. Its a bit pillowy on the head. Its nice to see someone try for their own style for once,
ok the pillow thing was actually meant to be like that^^ http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9596/cyborgcatax6.png
I gave him a new color pallete with a pallete swatch ( it should be easy to tell the head appart from the body now since the head has one more shade than the rest of the body^^
Zombiechao
01-06-08, 15:20
That isn't what I meant, I meant color or hue, not the number of shades,.
That "Heartless" thing of yours, it's a recolor. Plain and simple. No edits, just different colors.
Please edit.
ok just to have said it chaning the color of a head that is nearly as big as the body itself doesnīt look to good...http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5931/cyborgcatpg6.png
EDIT: @rags: I said that I would change it ( look below Xterraīs last post^^)
No. Not just mask. Head, Shirt, Pants, everything.
hello itīs the same character so why should I make everything different? EDIT: and besides that it IS SUPOSSED to be like that ( because that will paly a important role in the comic iīm making right now...
OK thanks to the human half of my soul ( wich was coruppted by ragsīs other-wordly power.....) I made this http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3462/gonewarrockqv3.png I have gone totally nuts(warrockz) Oo ( if warrock ever wore shoes... please tell me I havenīt seen any yet XD)
jay update on the mysterious character ( nobody has figured out who or what he is yet Oo) things added/changed: added a second ear, created standing and hammering poses, changed Eye position, that should be all ^^ for now .... http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3148/cyborgcatwt5.png
It is pillow-shaded. Looks like a shark on the top left sprite, ninja on all others. You need way more contrast, and to reshade most, if not all of it. His head is oddly tilted up.
I have no idea what it is, and it doesn't look good right now.
the pillow thing is supossed to be like that ( ever thought that he could be made from metal candlejack? ) the tilted up is mostly because he is infact looking upwardīs in the first few and itīs my own style so I decide later if Iīm going to change the shading or anything ^^ about the contrast thing ( wich happenīs to come up for the 10000000000th time ... ) I might change it later but for now it stayīs like it is...
No.. Pillow shading is bad.
Look at it this way, you've put darker shading around the visor as if the visor would give off some kind of shadow. See?
Metal is NOT pillow-shaded. Metal is shiny. With highlights, and high contrast. Your excuse isn't going to work. The tilting looks bery jagged, and needs outline fixing. I counted the colours on your sprite, and it has about 3 more than the pallete.
I took the liberty to show you how I think it should be shaded, without actually knowing the design, but based it on what you said. I can't make heads or tails of the ears, so they are probably mis-shaped. Also, I made it lighter, with extreme highlights, that could be fixed by making the second lightest shade's total area smaller. Some places still are shaded bad. If this isn't what it is to look like, then go ahead and ignore it.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3214/gregfixupsy7.png
If you don't want this up, tell me.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3462/gonewarrockqv3.pngYou have to make him a lot bulkier than that, because Warrock is not that skinny. Other than that, I really like it.I have no idea what it is, and it doesn't look good right now.How can you say you don't know, when you specifically told exactly what was wrong with it. It was pillow-shaded, and awkwardly positioned. Your rendition is good. And definitely looks more metallic.
Just as Gregarmet wanted to look.
@candlejack: hmmm... even if I hate to say it... but you just hit the right point in eveything^^ I will take that as a base for the other poses if you allow me ^^ @Xterra: making warrock bulky in a style wich uses skinny characterīs seemīs a bit off but well.. I will do it ^^
@gravitee: yeah I just realized that myself ^^"""
anywho it seemīs that no one can guess from where this little dude is from ... if you want to know ... ever heard of a manga ( and anime series ) called Cyborg kuro-chan ? Well if not google it or look at youtube^^
Sure. There are still some shading problems though, like on the tail and closest ear on mine.
youīve could have just taken my sprite and reshade it ^^ ( seriously Iīm not angry on people who try to correct my mistakeīs ^^)
Ok compare this one with candlejackīs ( mine is supossed to be spiky ( hope itīs spelled like that Oo) anywho http://imageupload.com/out.php/i125439_compare.PNG for ar damn reason imageshack doesnīt react Oo
OK back to buisness ( since nobody wantīs to talk about the cyborg cat ...) I edited my gone warrock sprite : http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6826/gonewarrockhq5.png even if it now has a somehow strange comic like look it seemīs to look alot more like warrock donīt you think? ah yeah and another thing could someone tell me how the text thing in a comic workīs ? ( oh and a little secret ... my character wonīt get any new sprites for the comic since he will hover over the ground ....and warrock will appear in it to ..)
Ok Iīve totally gone weird ( noisz??) : http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3999/newmev2tw2.png a selfmade version of a noise enemy that turnīs out to be my character in his "cursed form" you will see one of these two forms ( donīt know wich yet) for a LOONG time ( his real form is not seen until the last few chapterīs...) C+C please^^
Ok I oblivously lost all of my sanity Oo : http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8769/acontestideakb3.png
this was my absolutly hilarious contest idea .... anywho I never ask someone if I would be allowed to make a contest out of it... anywho PLEASE C+C ...(EDIT: they are supossed to look liek this since Vent just cosplayīs the characterīs XD)
Well, if it cosplay, you need ot get rid of his pants on the first two. It looks terrible on Promethues, but okay on Argoyle. The right paw of the Argoyle cosplay needs to be repositioned so it is like the other paw. But don't copy and paste the other paw. Serpent X needs to have smaller shoulders, and feet. He doesn't have a knee either. Remake the head of Promethues to fit Vent's prespective. Prome is facing 3/4, Vent is straight foward.
Edit: I think the contest idea would be better if you had to take a chracter in one style (MMX1 Zero), and have him/her cosplay as a character from a diffrent style.(MMX1 Zero cosplayed as Quint.) That would show who has more skills.
Well I will do some editīs on them but what do you think of the contest idea itself ?
Zombiechao
08-06-08, 16:36
The last one actually looks pretty awesome. The rest are a bit meesy and should be easier to see make sense of.
@zombie: you think? XD well I made those out of borandom ( all of them... and because no one was commenting on my "itīs a wonderful world sprites" Oo) anyway I will make more of these ( already made an omega version of these ^^) EDIT: oh and next up : the Megaman Mechaīs Oo
@candle: one thing I forgot to mention cosplayīs never look like the people the impose so why make a character that is supossed to cosplay
an another one look near the orginal ?
Ok new ones ( all made very simple and not really intended to be good ..) http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7026/acontestideayw7.png
new ones are: Craft ( looks like Vent went for a boot camp training Oo) , copy X, Lava devil ( oversized Vent???OOOOo) Hivolt ( coolness in human size XD), giga aspis ( strange formed but somehow cool ) omega,and Fistleo Please C+C oh and the reason he alwayīs has the same pantīs is because those are somehow Ventīs trademark ^^""2
Zombiechao
08-06-08, 18:14
Work on the old ones before making new ones. They need to be fixed up a lot. Besides this is simple c and p. Edit everything much more.
Zombie Chao is right, but I really like what you did with the giga aspis.
Iīm working on the model W impose right now ( and copy X ) I made them like I said befor out of total borandome might make some sheets but not sure yet ) ...
I think you shouldn't copy paste at all, as you are getting diffrent angles, and it just doesn't look good on any of them. Some things look impossible for Vent to even be wearing. Keep on trying, and edit/scratch more before you make new ones.
Iīm fixing model W and copy X right now ( copy X got a second pair of wings aswell as new wing on the feet ^^)
OK update: Model W got a total overhaulin, Copy X got partly changed and Hivolt got a small edit ( those are my favorites ^^) sadly I donīt have enough time for all of them....http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1152/acontestideavj2.png
My favorites of the lot are Model W and Kraft.
Model W is excellent and far more form-fitting now then before.
Kraft-Vent looks kind of bulky, but in a good way, not mis-shaped.
Copy X looks a little too simular to the actual reploid, though.
Some look better than others, but overall it's just C+P.
Also, the snake costume thing just looks really f'ed up, mainly because of the way you put the jaw on him... the lower jaw is backward. What's up with that?
Even though those are C+P I love the Omega Zero with pants
@all: I hope you read the post in the previous page ... because they are actually cosplay costumīs so they look not like the original and are not supossed to ^^ ( they were a actual contest idea ...) anywho Iīm happy to see that you like them ^^
@king: I donīt know Oo ( it was 3 in the morning when I made that one Oo)
OK update: I made a newer version of the copy X impose of vent ( might make a alie version to...) this time with normal form ( wich is VERY near to the original Oo) and an different idle.... and yes itīs C+P again but notice one thin... copy X is nearly identical to the normal Vent ( in size ect.) http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1331/fakeandrealthingad7.png
C+C please ^^
OK update and here I come : My new characterīs name is orbius the orb http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8118/meinorbformqv4.png character bio: open file 666.... password: ***** project: O.B.R ( orbish biologic robot...) Protocol: O.B.R ... weapon of mere destruction .. nearly indestructable thankīs to hyper ceratanium guard ring.... ( thatīs all for now ^^"")
anyway C+C please ^^
JEEEHA : I finally got Duke Dumas ^^ ( ripped him myself ... just one sprite sadly ...) I also made recolors of him to show what could have happened if he would have combined himself with perrault and another terrenial ( is it written like that ? ) sadly I couldnīt find a tove sprite -.-""" ( and yes he looks freaky for some good for nothing reason ^^""") http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7016/theultimatedukedy8.png
sprites in following order: sol duke, dark duke ( or like I like to call him "real duke of darkness"),Wind duke, Ice duke,Fire duke, normal duke EDIT: next up : WAR... duke XD
OK something new ... A NEW MODEL in fact Oo : I looked around the forums here and saw mathis character "twillight" and thought "hmm ... a ghost like character ..." and then it hit me !! ( a baseball infact....) I make model cable of taking over other modelīs !!! so here it is model SK ( skull) http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3301/modelskullwh1.png oh and note : this model is far away from being finished , I just made itīs head ( wich is a combination between model PX and model P ...) and the actual biometal... ^^ C+C PLEASE EDIT: the second biometal form is it "overskulling" form ...
Its a nice helm, reminds me of one I've made. And so far well shaded. Let's see where you go with this.
The thing is... I īm an ass at scratching bodyīs -.- thatīs why I normally use those form actual game characterīs....
OK update: here is the standing pose of model SK and more biometalīs ( try to figure wich is wich ) oh and... also do some critics on the emerl model SK combo XD oh and one last thing.... WTF ? http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8261/wtflz2.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7808/modelskullgo6.png
Zombiechao
19-06-08, 17:15
I make model cable of taking over other modelīs !!! Isn't that very similiar to model X fusing with other models.
Besides he'd be confused with model skull man
I seriously doubt that .... since Skullman doesnīt have hornīs nor does he have a purple in his color pallet Oo second thing is that model X does it differently than SK will... actually SK wonīt take over other modelīs ... he will take over itīs user AND the model to say it ^^
Ok Update: new forms for SK ( X, OX, Z, and ?) donīt ask what the last one is aswell as the new model ... because I donīt have a clue Oo http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/4571/modelskullmr3.png
What is the las on- *Shot*
I like how the head came out, but the 4th sprite (on the bottom) looks really bad. He also seems to have stubby hands, if you could fix those it would be better.
Karnstantine
21-06-08, 17:25
Wait, is that Promethe-shot-
The major oddity I find is the over-wide chest, and the leg shading. Otherwise, its not bad.
The chest is not over wide karnstantine it is as big as the chest of Model P Oo
@ony: the stuby hands are pupossly made to be like that why ? well think about it he is a skull where do you think he got his body from ? a supermarket ? no from the graveyard and as you can guess stuff in graves rot thus making them a bit different than normal ^^
About the wide chest- He meant it looks like he's sticking out his chest. And not in the normal Z/ZX way.
So? *riseseybrow* Just because something is standart in a game doesnīt means that I canīt do something different ^^ ( oh and I thought thsi would be a good chance for me to make the Megaman Mecha suitīs ... but I made something totally weird Oo)
WELL Here it comes the most strangest thing I EVER made Oo the Flauclaw Battlebody :http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6981/modelskullne0.png
Ignore the Fistleoīs please ( and before you ask FLauclawīs head is the chest of the Battlebody the actual head is SKīs head on the back also before you ask no this is NO copy and paste I really scratched it expect for the head...... and I KNOW the hell how deformed it looks OK? )
Twoheaded big armed freak?
IT'S ROBOT SILENT HILL!
Seriously though if that is scratch that's really good.
actually thatīs the head of model SK wearing a remake of Phanter flauclawīs as his body ( the most scary thing .... he got thausendīs of these Oo) about the fact that I made it from scratched ... letīs say that the real phanter flaucalwīs was used for reference pointīs ^^ I might make a fenri lunaedge and otherīs ^^
Holy **** I really need to decide if I want to make sprites or keep making my fan fiction -.- nah anywayīs here is an update : http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4590/modelskullyp7.png
OK here some info: the weil froms ( both of them ) have just one Eye.. Why ? well think about it would an nearly exact copy of weil allow himself to be controled ? I donīt think so ^^ the Vent edit shows how a character getīs posessed by model SK ... oh and the Greenish model X is Model SKX ^^
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