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Terry von Feledae
15-11-07, 07:57
This is the SSBB thread to end all SSBB threads, DISCUSS NOW, OR I SHALL DESTROY YOU
Official SSBB website (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)
Because the old one reached 99 pages.
Last update were Meta Knight's special moves.
turpinator
15-11-07, 08:23
Eh, might as well post my version of the update again so people don't miss it. >_>
DOUBLE UPDATE: Meta Knight's Special Moves
Standard Special: Mach Tornado: From what I've seen it sucks players in, like Link's new boomerang, or Mario's spin move. It moves from side to side as you hold it down, and if you tap the button MK rises off the floor a bit.
Side Special: Drill Rush: Plow horizontally into enemies like a drill (MK's sword being the tip), semi-controllable. (can be tilted for direction)
Up Special: Shuttle Loop: Similar to Kirby's up special (Sword Kirby), but doesn't have a quick, uncontrollable drop after going up.
Down Special: Dimesional Cape: Basically MK wraps himself in his cape disappears, and reappears. (reappearance location is contollable) If holding the attack button while performing this move, he'll finish it with a quick swipe right after he reappears.
A reintroduction to gliding appears in this moves list as well.
Final Thoughts: Cheapest. Character. EVER. I mean, how the heck CAN'T you get back to the stage once you're hit far as MK?
Music: Meta Knight's Revenge
Jazzified remix to an old song. Ohhh, can't stop dancing. *Dances uncontrollably*
Metaknight's down move reminds me of Marth/Roy's Counter. If Ike doesn't get Counter, this will do for me... I hope it's a fast move too... His other moves are just ownage, first character I'm going to play as will definitely be Metaknight.
Rainbow Dash
15-11-07, 09:33
Why did the other one have to close?
:/ I'll leave it up to you, I suppose, but I don't see the point.
Daemonseele
15-11-07, 09:35
Why did the other one have to close?
:/ Whatever, I'll leave it up to you.
Threads nearing 100 pages have errors. So naturally they're closed within 99 pages.
Rainbow Dash
15-11-07, 10:00
Ah, that makes sense then. I should really stop posting in AM so I'm more likely to make sense. xP
Yay for Meta Knight!
And you all focused on different characters, sucks for you. ;p
That tornado move reminds me of "Tornado Kirby"...
Meta Knight looks kickass.
Dammit, I WANT SUPER SMASH BROS. BRAWLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneone
Advent Axl
15-11-07, 12:07
anybody even notice the music?
Yep, its ok.
So far, this seems to be mostly "things you already knew" week.
Its kinda wierd they have lots of things to update on their website until the game is out, I really wonder how many things there are.
Like Aikin said, most of the things will probably be things that we already know.
Zero James Magnion
15-11-07, 19:17
Its kinda wierd they have lots of things to update on their website until the game is out, I really wonder how many things there are.
Like Aikin said, most of the things will probably be things that we already know.
They're keeping us in suspense, it's a selling tactic. But seriously, would you be happy knowing everything about a game before it's released? Where's the surprise? Where's the fun?
Regardless of that fact, I agree with whoever said MK cheapest chatacter ever, simply because all of his moves allow him to pretty much get back to the edge. How totally lame.Zyros will kill me in my sleep for this.
Advent Axl
15-11-07, 20:49
My mind says that a character will appear tommorrow, what about you guys
Corrupt Insanity
15-11-07, 22:17
I agree but who can it possibly be?
Mk will own and so what if he can like never fall off maybe hes lightweight
They're keeping us in suspense, it's a selling tactic. But seriously, would you be happy knowing everything about a game before it's released? Where's the surprise? Where's the fun?
Regardless of that fact, I agree with whoever said MK cheapest chatacter ever, simply because all of his moves allow him to pretty much get back to the edge. How totally lame.Zyros will kill me in my sleep for this.Seems like you're just upset that Meta Knight's a better character than the one you were going to pick. And I don't have to kill you, I'll let Meta Knight do that for me.
They're keeping us in suspense, it's a selling tactic. But seriously, would you be happy knowing everything about a game before it's released? Where's the surprise? Where's the fun?
Regardless of that fact, I agree with whoever said MK cheapest chatacter ever, simply because all of his moves allow him to pretty much get back to the edge. How totally lame.Zyros will kill me in my sleep for this.
From what I found, while Meta is an insane juggle master, little lag, and has great multi-hit attacks, he lacks power, good KOing moves, and air speed. So, it all balances out in the end.
Advent Axl
16-11-07, 01:55
Somebody may have said this, but I'm too lazy to look
why are they giving us crap for two weeks. . . I don't like these past two weeks. . .why don't they go back to when they introduced Wi-Fi, and Co-Op, and Sonic. . .y'know, the good stuff
[fish in space]
16-11-07, 01:57
Yeah, the last good thing was custom levels.
turpinator
16-11-07, 02:04
Whaa, whaa, whaa. All you guys care about is the good updates. Think about how hard it is for them to reveal stuff without revealing the whole game, every weekday, day-in day-out, until it gets released, which is much later now. They've got to stretch what they currently have, so people are entertained until it gets released, and I'm sure they'll STILL have some secrets up their sleeves even after that. Be thankful little children, you actually GET updates. >_<
Advent Axl
16-11-07, 02:41
By giving us usless updates, like the banana, we want to know more about subspace, and the other details about the game, who is the most recent character
turpinator
16-11-07, 02:54
...and there you go again with your ridiculous argument. Give it up! just because you guys whine the loudest, doesn't mean you'll miraculously get the updates you want faster.
Listen, this arguement ends here for me. I'm sure I'll get warned for what I REALLY want to say, most likely what I'll say next if I continue.
Advent Axl
16-11-07, 03:29
Turp if you really are into this game you would feel the same way.
anyway, who WAS the latest character, i forgot
UPDATE: Spectator Mode!
This mode lets you watch other people's online matches, and gamble on them! Now the entire world can watch you kick ass! (But they won't know it's you.)
Daemonseele
16-11-07, 06:15
Update: Spectator Mode.
Basically, if enabled before the match, anyone over the WiFi can watch the match.
Also, spectators can now bet coins on characters during a match.
The payoff increases with more players in the match.
At the end of the match, everyone watching gets stickers.
Edit: Outposted.
turpinator
16-11-07, 06:48
Turp if you really are into this game you would feel the same way.
anyway, who WAS the latest character, i forgot
Dude, seriously, grow up. If your head was on straight you'd notice that I'm usually the one who updates the thread with the new stuff immediately as it gets put onto the site, I've played SSB and SSBM, I keep inputting info from previous installments and other series games into my updates that SBD fails to mention, etc.; I don't think you can get any more "into the game" than that. :P
Speaking of noticing stuff, if you look at the character screen you'll notice some suit changes for some of the characters. I would've wished Link had his Zora suit from TP instead of a generic blue tunic that looks identical to the green one. >_>
Advent Axl
16-11-07, 08:43
I don't think growing up ABOUT A GAME really matters, you are the only one getting mad about it. So what, people want more. GET OVER IT
anyway, if they can install this 'useless to veterans' mode in the game, they should add costume, i wanna see winged cap mario fight =P
Speaking of noticing stuff, if you look at the character screen you'll notice some suit changes for some of the characters. I would've wished Link had his Zora suit from TP instead of a generic blue tunic that looks identical to the green one. >_>
I wanted Link with his Zora Suit, too. T-T
Talking about link, does he still have his double smash?
Solarblade
16-11-07, 16:36
Yesterday's music update rocked. =P
Today's update rocks too. Betting looks fun...
And watching people looks awesome too. Bet we'll be seeing a lot of people recording matches they watch.
turpinator
17-11-07, 05:29
I don't think growing up ABOUT A GAME really matters, you are the only one getting mad about it. So what, people want more. GET OVER IT
anyway, if they can install this 'useless to veterans' mode in the game, they should add costume, i wanna see winged cap mario fight =P
I'm not getting mad, you're just taking things too seriously.
My main point, the point I've been stressing this whole time is simply this: Take it easy. I understand you guys are very excited and cannot wait to get your hands on more information/the game itself, but they're trying really hard to get the mechanics right. In the meantime the updates are only meant as teasers, stressing about them not telling the whole story is pretty pointless, because the main intent of the updates were MEANT to make you think that way. Advertising 101: Make the consumer absolutely want everything about the product you are selling.
Y'see? Even though I'm really excited, I'm still using the ol' noodle when taking a look at the stuff they show. *knocks against head*
I found a video showing most of the character's inal smashes in action, but I'm not sure if it's old or not so I won't post it right away.
@Turp: Don't bother, Axl doesn't learn.
I found a video showing most of the character's inal smashes in action, but I'm not sure if it's old or not so I won't post it right away.
@Turp: Don't bother, Axl doesn't learn.
Eh, post it. If its old, its old. If its not, hurray!
Yep Axl is like the George Bush of the forum; no matter what you say to him, he'll stay the course.
About the Spectator Mode, I liked it, im sure there are some interesting matches to see and the gambling seems nice...
I look forward to it. ^^
Alright then, here's the video. Again, It's probably an old one.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0
Advent Axl
17-11-07, 22:17
I posted that in the last thread, but nice to have to see it again
Every time I see that LandMaster fall, I expect Fox to be on it, strike a pose, and yells 'WRYYYY'.
Every time I see that LandMaster fall, I expect Fox to be on it, strike a pose, and yells 'WRYYYY'.
You never know; it could be the Land Masters Taunt. I just love watching the LandMaster drive around on the stadium. I can't wait to do it my self, heh.
turpinator
19-11-07, 03:15
Every time I see that LandMaster fall, I expect Fox to be on it, strike a pose, and yells 'WRYYYY'.
Well, he DOES already technically have that taunt as a basic one. XD
turpinator
19-11-07, 06:14
UPDATE: Ice Climber's Final Smash: Iceberg
Yes, you heard me, ICEBERG, and I don't mean a medium sized icecube, I mean a HUGE honking iceberg that takes up practically the whole stage! When this move is executed the Ice Climbers high five and the iceberg is assumed to rise from the ground up. When the iceberg appears it will cover most of the area, including some platforms, and damage opposing characters. It will also make the remaining platforms slippery to walk on for players (not including the climbers, it is their move :P). This move also has the ability to freeze opponents, talk about giving a cold sendoff. XD
Fluttershy
19-11-07, 11:33
You forgot to say that the Iceberg can make the platforms smaller.
When the iceberg appears it will cover most of the area, including some platforms...
I think he pretty much covered it there.
Sometimes, you can even freeze opponents.
Now that’s just cold!
His puns are killing me.
Question: Do you guys think different players could have final smash ability at the same time?
If it is possible wonder what would happen if two final smashs happened at the same time.
Edit: Just thought of something... Iceberg looks absurdly strong even for a final smash... However... I think it just might suffer from the same disadvantage the ice climbers Up-special had: No nana no move.
Question: Do you guys think different players could have final smash ability at the same time?
If it is possible wonder what would happen if two final smashs happened at the same time.
Different players can't have Final Smash's at the same time. Only 1 Smash Ball appears per round. So, it's impossible.
I thought it said charectors could only USE thier final smash once per round?
Probably. I can't remember. :P
But other than that, the chances of there being 2 Smash Balls on the field at one time is like having 2 of the same Pokemon come out of different Pokeballs at the same time.
Even if there's only 1 Smash Ball, two players can't get it at the same time.
Well... I figured that... I mean like one player saved thier final smash until another smash ball appeared...
Also... If multiple smash balls appear... does that mean Samus actually can use 2 final smashes? (One as zero suit!)
Well... I figured that... I mean like one player saved thier final smash until another smash ball appeared...
I don't think that's possible. I think there's a time limit to how long you can wait until unleashing your attack.
Also... If multiple smash balls appear... does that mean Samus actually can use 2 final smashes? (One as zero suit!)
Zero-Suit Samus does not have a Final Smash. Not that we know of, anyway. But I really, REALLY doubt she does. After all, Masahiro Sakurai says
"That really was her last trump card." Meaning, after using her Final Smash and shedding her armor, that's it.
Zero-Suit Samus does not have a Final Smash. Not that we know of, anyway. But I really, REALLY doubt she does. After all, Masahiro Sakurai says
"That really was her last trump card." Meaning, after using her Final Smash and shedding her armor, that's it.
What if you'd spawn Smash Balls during training mode? Couldn't she grab one then?
Yes, she could. But that doesn't mean it would do anything. Also, we don't even know if you can spawn Smash Balls during training. Though it'd be common sense to do so, we do not know if they want that feature.
Actually, in one video, if Zero Suit Samus gets a Smash Ball, then she regains her armour. :P
Though, I'm not sure if that's what you're arguing about. >_>;;
That doesn't make much sense. Each character is only allowed to use 1 smash ball per fight, I thought. Please, post that video link.
Daemonseele
19-11-07, 19:03
Zero-Suit Samus does not have a Final Smash. Not that we know of, anyway. But I really, REALLY doubt she does. After all, Masahiro Sakurai says
"That really was her last trump card." Meaning, after using her Final Smash and shedding her armor, that's it.
I'm not very certain about that. According to this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0) (the same that Advent Axl and Zyros posted), between 48 and 54 seconds into the video, Zero Suit Samus seems to have a final smash (where she regains her armor).
Though I'd much like to see that video, Youtube doesn't work on my PC, so I'll look at it later. It doesn't make much sense, still. How exactly does she regain her armor?
Though I'd much like to see that video, Youtube doesn't work on my PC, so I'll look at it later. It doesn't make much sense, still. How exactly does she regain her armor?
Kind of like in Zero Mission, how she becomes bathed in light. That's about all there is, minus some flashy effects. :P
Kind of like in Zero Mission, how she becomes bathed in light. That's about all there is, minus some flashy effects. :P
Yep, it's called the "Crystal Flash", it dates back to Super Metroid. Although, I've read that the FS also inflicts damage as well, but not a whole lot. (It also has a small range)
turpinator
20-11-07, 03:13
I'm not very certain about that. According to this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0) (the same that Advent Axl and Zyros posted), between 48 and 54 seconds into the video, Zero Suit Samus seems to have a final smash (where she regains her armor).
Speaking of that video..... it looks like one of Samus's suit changes is the basic Fusion suit from the colours, but on further inspection it looks more like a recoloured Varia suit. These suit changes are starting to be a major letdown. T_T
EDIT: Another thought occurred to me ... if you can manipulate the songs for stages and create stages with stage builder... what stops you from putting songs onto the game to play during stages? It would be awesome if they show that ability to be available. ^^
EDIT: EDIT: It also looks like a suit change for DK is a Yeti Kong type thing. (meaning he gets snow-white fur)
turpinator
20-11-07, 06:15
DOUBLE UPDATE: Smart Bomb
This very explosive item comes to us from the Star Fox series, and as all Star Fox fans know, this thing packs a PUNCH! First you pick it up, then you toss it in the direction you want it to go; When it lands it'll make a huge ball of carnage that increases in size, sometimes engulfing the whole stage. (depends which stage) But beware, if the user gets caught in the resulting chaos, he'll be damaged too. There's always a possiblity that it doesn't go off right away, so when that happens, keep an eye on it while continuing your battle; You may never know, it could spark back to life at any random time. Electrode and the ability for explosive pokemon to fizzle are mentioned in this update as well.
Training Mode:
Nothing new pops out at me that's different from SSBM.
Forget about Megaman being the final third party.
PHEONIX FOR THE WIN! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JHXmlX_eV88&feature=related)
(Joke, but would be SOOOOO awesome if it came true)
Electrode looks soo sad... Hey this confirms electrodes return!
That and some sort of soccer ball as an item.
Curiosity is getting the worst of me.
Terry von Feledae
20-11-07, 19:50
That and some sort of soccer ball as an item.
Isn't that just a Smoke Ball (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/item07.html)?
10303
No, I'm pretty sure that's a soccer ball. On the platform?
Huh... Look fun.
I'll have a soccer football match in Norfair any day!
Terry von Feledae
20-11-07, 20:09
Oh right, I overlooked that one :P
turpinator
21-11-07, 02:57
Forget about Megaman being the final third party.
PHEONIX FOR THE WIN! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JHXmlX_eV88&feature=related)
(Joke, but would be SOOOOO awesome if it came true)
That would be the most epic intro for a fighter ever. Epic win right there! X3
Advent Axl
21-11-07, 03:00
10303
No, I'm pretty sure that's a soccer ball. On the platform?is that where the smoke ball is at (smoke ball profile)
[EDIT] NVM the recent update
That soccer ball reminds me of Animal Crossing. They would appear every now and again in the GCN version, you could kick them around... no real use though.
turpinator
21-11-07, 06:46
UPDATE: Colour Changes
A short list of some of the suit changes characters have. HA! It confirms (almost in exact detail I might add) some of the depictions I made of the suits I saw in SC's video on my second last post. Yeti DK and a normal Samus suit recoloured to look like the Fusion suit.
Mario: Reverse colour Mario (Red overalls, blue hat and shirt), Wario Mario, Fire Mario *New*, and brown overalls, white shirt Mario (can't depict him any other way >_>)
DK: Yeti DK
Link: A freaking kickass TP version Dark Link (red glowy eyes included), and generic blue tunic Link.
Samus: Fusion suit recolour.
Fox: An attractive black ensemble, with white and red trim colours. (I feel like a fashion nut now >_>)
Pikachu: Goggles (like Pichu), Trainer hat (Ash's hat), and green bandana (Emerald trainer's bandana).
Zelda: Original colours and design Zelda (I would assume from OoT, check Zelda's page to see the difference), and black/Dark Zelda.
Pit: I don't think I could say it better than the site; Golden, and Fallen Angel suit changes.
Ike: "Ordinary soldier" colours, and golden colours.
Snake: Different camouflages from MGS3. (I haven't played the game so I don't know the specific names)
Rainbow Dash
21-11-07, 07:05
Yes and very yes. Now blue Link won't have to be the only colour variation I ever pick ever. Because, you know, they all looked hideously ugly before.
...Yay!
turpinator
21-11-07, 07:23
I'm in full agreement, good buddy. :D
The Fuzion recolor Samus looks simply awesome; shame you couldn't get the Varia suit in those colors in the Metroid games.
I can be Dark Link now. Freaking sweet.
Is every one getting a "dark/evil" color now or something? I want to see an evil looking Pikachu and Ice Climbers!
Dark versions of all charectors?
Hmm... Maybe Pikachu in a Rocket grunt hat (That would be sweet)
Black and white Ice climbers?
Super badass Metaknight?
Black Yoshi?
Shiny Black Ike?
Shadow colored Sonic?
Rocket Grunt Trainer? (Just a color change would satisfy me here, With the rocket logo.)
Yeti DK looks scared white.
edit: Just thought of something... Ice climbers final smash in Nofair. Lava flow stop perhaps?
Terry von Feledae
21-11-07, 18:31
edit: Just thought of something... Ice climbers final smash in Nofair. Lava flow stop perhaps?
Doubt.
Though an Iceberg in Norfair would look somewhat paradoxic.
I wonder what would happen if the iceberg "closed" the safe space so that nobody could enter.
Advent Axl
21-11-07, 20:13
I loved the fallen Angel Pit
I doubt the lava flow will stop the lava myself... But there is precident for certain charectors to affect stages differently than normal... (Aka Snake)
turpinator
22-11-07, 06:17
UPDATE: Assist Trophy: Saki Amamiya
From the original game Sin and Punishment: Successor to the Earth comes a character that looks like he can hold his own as a fighter, but can only be included as an AT. He's got a pretty kickass weapon, the Cannon Sword, and he uses it to put the hurt on his enemies.
*Special Notes: The game Sin and Punishment: Successor to the Earth is current available for Wii console download.
Advent Axl
22-11-07, 06:36
Shouldve been a new character
Yet another Assist Trophy that probably could have worked as a playable character....
Advent Axl
22-11-07, 06:40
yeah, and they are busy giving us bannas, and soccer balls instead. . .
well I wouldve played as him, which means, a character from that game is playable
well I wouldve played as him, which means, a character from that game is playable
Huh? He was the main character. Why would they make anybody else from Sin & Punishment playable if he's not?
Yet another Assist Trophy that probably could have worked as a playable character....
No, I believe he fits in well right where he is. He's a from a game that A) was only released in Japan and B) a game that had a very limited release. Although I did do some sniffing around and Sin & Punishment seems like an interesting game to play.
He's a from a game that A) was only released in Japan and B) a game that had a very limited release.
So are Marth, Roy, and Lucas, and their games aren't even on the Virtual Console.
So are Marth, Roy, and Lucas, and their games aren't even on the Virtual Console.
True, but those games they had had many more printings, even if they were confined to Japan. S&P had a very small release.
Advent Axl
22-11-07, 15:43
Huh? He was the main character. Why would they make anybody else from Sin & Punishment playable if he's not?
Woah calm downman like i knew that
Not on Site update-Assist Trophy Trophy: Dixie Kong
I was locoing in my issue of Game informer, and in the Brawl article, I saw picture of Dixie Kong, so a did a little research, and I found out she's an Assist Trophy, not toi sure of what se does, but from the picture in my magazine, I'm guessing she throws a giant Banana Peel..that walks....
It... walks?
Some people are simply TOO imaginative.
Advent Axl
22-11-07, 22:00
Not on Site update-Assist Trophy Trophy: Dixie Kong
I was locoing in my issue of Game informer, and in the Brawl article, I saw picture of Dixie Kong, so a did a little research, and I found out she's an Assist Trophy, not toi sure of what se does, but from the picture in my magazine, I'm guessing she throws a giant Banana Peel..that walks....
Scan it and show us, so we can believe, wait, is it the most recent issue (I'm going to Gamestop tommorrow anyway)
maybe she isnt an assist trophy, but meh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Kong
Check the very bottom, I'll scan the image in a sec.
Zy-If it dosen't walk, it moves.
EDIT-Scan'd
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3576/dixiekongjp8.png (http://imageshack.us)
Advent Axl
23-11-07, 01:28
that's the trophy thing they showed in a video, not an assist trophy
Huh, oh well....oops ^_^;
Advent Axl
23-11-07, 01:35
you never saw the video?
here
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748545/vid_2158953.html
if that doesnt show here, it is called 'brawl montage', though you MAY be right, it is quite sublime.
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_3.html
turpinator
23-11-07, 06:07
DOUBLE UPDATE: Lucas's Final Smash: PK Starstorm
Basically when Lucas unleashes his attack he floats up into the air a bit, calls out the attack (unconfirmed, but highly assumed), and in lamense terms a meteor shower hits the WHOLE field. While EXTREMELY hard to dodge, I would consider it's somewhat possible to do so.
Charged Special Moves:
Basically a rundown of the basics of charged SM's, nothing we don't already know from Meelee.
Kore wa omoshiroi-idesu...
Er. Sorry.
This is interesting... I like Lucas's Final Smash. It's actually... Effective.
His final smash reminds me of one of Zero's skills in X6. But I doubt that it is a knock-out move, it'll probably just deal lots of damage. Because if it's a knock out move... it'd be too cheap and unfair from the other characters' final smashes... (Most of them only smack out one or two opponents, like Metaknight and Kirby)
I'm still wondering what snake's final smash will be.
Advent Axl
23-11-07, 19:55
that's why I like it:D
this was the best update all three weeks, they should do more double updates
turpinator
26-11-07, 06:11
UPDATE: Controls
Basically a detailed rundown of all the control scemes for the game, and the ability to save them on the Wiimote with a name for travel to friends house purposes.
Pinkie Pie
26-11-07, 07:16
Shake Smash? Don't think i'll be using that anytime soon XP
At least they used the motion sensors for something.
Nice to know you can turn off jumping with the Control Stick. That kind of annoyed me in Melee.
I hope the "Grab" button this time isn't pressure sensitive like in melee. Because I'm setting Grab to R-shoulder to make the Dash-dance grab flow nicely. (in stead of dash dancing and light shielding... bleh.) I wonder if you can set a combination of buttons to a single button...
And yes, I'll be setting "tilt jump" off as well.
Wow. I hate to say it, but we really have thought of everything.
As much as I'd like to say "Wow, they really have," they haven't. I mean, they've covered a lot of stuff, but instead of just different colors for characters, they should have put in alternate costumes.
Though I know that doing so would've just taken even longer, if they did, I would be more than happy to wait.
The ability to turn off the control stick jump is my favorite update of the past few weeks.
to make the Dash-dance grab flow nicely
Sounds like high hopes they won't fix those glitches?
Terry von Feledae
26-11-07, 15:08
As much as I'd like to say "Wow, they really have," they haven't. I mean, they've covered a lot of stuff, but instead of just different colors for characters, they should have put in alternate costumes.
Remember that they're limited in all kinds of things. Time, space, etcetrapehpeh. Remember that for each costume, you'd have to create extra models, extra textures, possibly extra programming, and consider all sorts of other program-wise things. Also, some characters simply don't HAVE any possible alternate costumes(like Pit) and it would almost seem like Nintendo didn't care about them if they gave them alternate costumes.
Remember that they're limited in all kinds of things. Time, space, etcetrapehpeh. Remember that for each costume, you'd have to create extra models, extra textures, possibly extra programming, and consider all sorts of other program-wise things. Also, some characters simply don't HAVE any possible alternate costumes(like Pit) and it would almost seem like Nintendo didn't care about them if they gave them alternate costumes.
Though I know that doing so would've just taken even longer, if they did, I would be more than happy to wait.
Yeah, I know.
Terry von Feledae
26-11-07, 20:01
It's not only time, it's also money, which, contrary to popular belief, Nintendo doesn't have infinite of :P
And CD-space. But I don't know how much of an issue that would be.
I was wondering... Could Nintendo possibly have updates for games like this that can be bought on the Wii's shop channel?
Say for example that Mega Man doesn't make it into Brawl... But latter on they decide that they wanted him in after all. Could they include more characters into the game latter on by those means? *This is of course assuming they went through all the legal issues with Capcom*
Sounds like high hopes they won't fix those glitches?
So far they fixed Wave Dashing, but Dash Dancing is still in by demo standards. (Flicking the left and right control stick very fast, resulting in a character that pivots in place instantly. Yet this can only be done during the 'start-up' frames of dashing.) Which technically, can fixed by adding the "stopping frames" to the start up animations.
Yet the pressure sensitive 'grab' button would be nice for dash grabbing too. As I hate it when I'm jogging up and I flick out a shield instead of a grab.
Yes, yes, I know what Dash Dancing is. I just group it in with Wavedashing and L-Canceling and such... But wait...
They fixed Wavedash? Has this been proven?
I was wondering... Could Nintendo possibly have updates for games like this that can be bought on the Wii's shop channel?
Say for example say Mega Man doesn't make it into Brawl... But latter on they decide that they wanted him in after all. Could they include more characters into the game latter on by those means? *This is of course assuming they went through all the legal issues with Capcom*
That's quite a thought to ponder... I don't think they've developed that; though they probably could've. Hmm...
I was wondering... Could Nintendo possibly have updates for games like this that can be bought on the Wii's shop channel?
Say for example say Mega Man doesn't make it into Brawl... But latter on they decide that they wanted him in after all. Could they include more characters into the game latter on by those means? *This is of course assuming they went through all the legal issues with Capcom*
Now this is an interesting thought. They probably could, but the problem here would be that all downloads go directly to a Wii Space. Plus, it would probably be one of those free downloads, so people might now have SSBB and just download it, and waste a space or whatever.
Though, really, I'm just bitching about it. The idea itself is quite interesting.
Shadow Blade
27-11-07, 01:42
can anyone tell me what the hell the nintendog assist trophy if useful for?
Terry von Feledae
27-11-07, 01:44
It's... Cute. Very. It also makes the fight more confusing, and thus more fun.
... For some.
Advent Axl
27-11-07, 01:49
can anyone tell me what the hell the nintendog assist trophy if useful for?
you know how sometimes when you knock any opponent out of the ring and they hhit the screen, and it blocks the screen for a short time
well the dog does that just blocks the screen longer
I was thinking more along the lines of when Togepi uses Blackout... or whatever it's called... just you can still see a bit of the action.
Advent Axl
27-11-07, 02:02
I actually like this update, I wanted to set my controls, and this proves my SSB for DS theroy a little more
How would having customizable controls prove SSB's going to the DS in any way? >.<
turpinator
27-11-07, 04:04
@Zyros: Ignore him Zyros, he always spouts some sort of gibberish after a new update without thoroughly backing his statements.
@AA: When I say not backing up your statement, in this case I mean quoting your so-called "theory". You should at least do that so you don't leave people scratching their heads in puzzlement.
Advent Axl
27-11-07, 04:51
I was wondering... Could Nintendo possibly have updates for games like this that can be bought on the Wii's shop channel?
Say for example that Mega Man doesn't make it into Brawl... But latter on they decide that they wanted him in after all. Could they include more characters into the game latter on by those means? *This is of course assuming they went through all the legal issues with Capcom*
well, now im not the only one who thought about that. having to be able to purchase special characters from the shop channel, but COA said all they had to do was ask about megaman.
anyway, wouldnt it be irritating if nintendo delayed it because they wanted costumes (im postingfrom my phone forgive my grammar)
turpinator
27-11-07, 05:01
*still scratches head with puzzlement*
How does that quoted statement even support your SSB DS statement? ... You know what, never mind. >_>
turpinator
27-11-07, 06:23
DOUBLE UPDATE: Widescreen Support
The title says it all, this game can play and support standard and widescreen televisions.
Music: Donkey Kong
The original Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong vs. Mario) music somewhat techno remixed, by a composer that has recently joined up with the SSBB crew.
Rainbow Dash
27-11-07, 06:33
A DK theme that isn't a freaking jungle rap?
YESSSSSSSSSS
Oooh, widescreen support.
BFD. Tons of Wii games have widescreen support, and they don't need their own setting for it. The Wii has that natively. I don't get why Sakurai thinks this game needs its own individual widescreen setting.
Pinkie Pie
27-11-07, 06:45
Well the music is downright weird. First piece i've heard off the site that I... well.. don't like. As for the widescreen thing - I guess it gives non-widescreeners a better view of the game? :-/
Rainbow Dash
27-11-07, 07:03
The Wii appeals to many casual gamers who are confused by shiney things. A visual clue to confirm that your setting is correct will be more than helpful for people who don't know the first thing about things powered by electricity.
Fluttershy
27-11-07, 11:41
Hmm.. I don't know why but your statement Tox just made sense and confused me at the same time... Anyway, I love the new DK song. Much better than the stupid Rap shit.
Yes, yes, I know what Dash Dancing is. I just group it in with Wavedashing and L-Canceling and such... But wait...
They fixed Wavedash? Has this been proven?
Yep, its all thanks to how aerial dodges work. In Brawl, Air dodging is worked much differently. Instead of stopping like a cartoon character in mid air and gaining a few invincibility frames, you keep traveling along your trajectory and gain invincibility frames. In addition, air dodging does not "kill" your jump and you may act normally after dodging. (Doubling jump-if able-, attack, recover...) You may also air dodge multiple times, but there is a delay between when one can air dodge again.
So, with out the ability to control one's air dodge, wave dashing on command has been rendered useless. Yet a few people Wave Landed... But its not really the same as wave dashing. I found this info on Smash boards and Neoseeker from people who have played the demo.
Also, L-canceling is not a glitch. Cutting lag down from attacks by pushing a button(s) at the right time is a common technique in fighting games. Brawl still has it, but since many animations have been sped up, L canceling is only useful for attacks like Link's down air when he hits the ground or Bowser's back aerial A.
Sounds good to me. So I guess you can't airdodge downward or upward anymore? But not having it steal your movement more than makes up for it.
This update is yet another dissapointing one for me... I have not had a chance to listen to the DK music, but if it isn't the DK Rap, I'm sure it's going to be good.
I liked the DK Rap.
...What?
*Shot*
Sounds good to me. So I guess you can't airdodge downward or upward anymore?
Yep, you got it. So far I like the sound of it too; it help sets Brawl away from Melee even more.
Solarblade
27-11-07, 20:11
I liked the DK Rap.
...What?
*Shot*
DK! Donkey Kong!
He's the leader of the bunch
You know him well
He's finally back
To kick some tail YA!
*shot many times*
Anyhow, I liked the new DK song. It's nice and catchy. As for widescreen, meh, it's nice to know =P
Finally listened to the new DK music... They can't seriously want this to play at Rumble Falls... it doesn't seem to fit the mood there. Maybe some stage that's really slow... Or perhaps a retro, 8 bit appearing Donkey Kong stage?
Terry von Feledae
27-11-07, 23:08
I don't like it that much personally; It just seems like a series of random sounds rather than real music to me. But then again, it was based off music that is old even for NES standards, so what should I expect? :/
I could kinda imagine it playing in the "break the targets" "minigame" or another similar themeless-ish stage, but I doubt that that's where it'll play.
I wonder if they'll have a Tetris themed stage...
It could be set up so characters could stand on falling blocks that would then rotate if they stood on it too long, and as time goes by the bricks would fall faster making it easier to get crushed...
turpinator
28-11-07, 03:00
It'd be fricken nice to hear the remix of the original tetris song too. :D
[fish in space]
28-11-07, 03:28
NEWCOMER
L-block
Heh, lets hope not.
Why not? Mind you, he DID won the Gamefaqs character contest from Link.
Also, I've been screaming since the beginning that I want a Tetris stage. I actually think that it'd be doable, and really nice.
But wouldn't Tetris count as 3th party?
turpinator
28-11-07, 06:07
UPDATE: Wario's Final Smash
Wario man, an alter-ego of Wario is unleased as this husky one-hit wonder chows down on a clove of garlic. While not making any superb, fantabulous, over the top attack, it does enhance all his normal and special moves litterally making them, well... super. Just don't try the bike, it's supposed to be too fast to handle and boasts pretty strong player launching power as seen in the screen shot.
Oh god, Wario in pink tights blinds me! That's plenty of advantage if you ask me.
NEWCOMER
L-block
Heh, lets hope not.
God yes.
And Wario's FS doesn't seem too great, IMO.
...
It's official; Wario is no good whatsoever.
*Shot*
Wario gets faster, stronger, gets different attacks, and flies for a short time. That seems really REALLY good to me. Hell, it works wonders for Sol Badguy: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NSGBoJPWQgc
Advent Axl
28-11-07, 19:11
...
It's official; Wario is no good whatsoever.
*Shot*
*hides gun*
well I regret shooting him but well. . .he's right. . .I don't like Wario anymore because of that
turpinator
29-11-07, 02:57
Wario gets faster, stronger, gets different attacks, and flies for a short time. That seems really REALLY good to me. Hell, it works wonders for Sol Badguy: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NSGBoJPWQgc
Wrong link Aikin, the one you posted is for Guilty Gear. :/
Daemonseele
29-11-07, 03:26
Wrong link Aikin, the one you posted is for Guilty Gear. :/
Because Sol Badguy is from Guilty Gear?
turpinator
29-11-07, 03:37
Because Sol Badguy is from Guilty Gear?
Whoops, sorry. Thought he was talking about someone named Sol Badguy (username) playing as Wario in the demo with the Final Smash. And I thought that was the video. >_<;;
turpinator
29-11-07, 06:22
UPDATE: The return of: Event Matches!
These trusty battles are back in Brawl and badder than ever. There's even difficulty settings for the missions now. (though I don't really see the point of that >_>)
Events Include:
Two Trouble Kings: You play as Mario while trying to get rid of Dedede and Bowser.
Pink Ball Repulsion: You play as Meta Knight and you must evict Kirby from the stage before you reach the Battleship Halberd.
Cleaning House in Skyworld: You're Pit and the enemy is Wario, you've got to destroy all the breakable floors, Wario stops you from accomplishing this. (but assumed to have a tendency to screw up and help you instead :P)
Sleeping in the Eggs: You play as Yoshi and you must turn both opponents into eggs at the same time to win. (Kirby and Pikachu shown as enemies in screenshot, may be randomized)
Dark Link Duel: You play as Link, the opponent Dark Link. Standard 200 HP stamina fight.
Corrupt Insanity
29-11-07, 10:40
Events are gonna be awesome now since they have difficulty settings now.Im happy for that and the fact that I reserved BRAWL at last.Also Wario was gonna be bad either way I think the people that are gonna use him are the fans of the wario ware inc games or for comic relief.
Events Return! There is almost a 100% chance of Trainer vs. Playable pokemon event. Although... Which will be the players char?
Wario's alright.
turpinator
30-11-07, 06:12
UPDATE: Meelee Stages
The one qusetion on your minds this whole time, the one I've been anticipating is only this: Will some of the stages from Meelee make it back to Brawl? The answer? Freaking yes.
The only stage they show in this update is my absolute favourite from Meelee, and that's the Legend of Zelda Temple stage! They even have a remastered music accompanyment for it! (In my opinion the opening is a bit tame, but I still like it overall)
Wow! That's my favorite stage! And this time with a new and awesome background track...the opening is better then NO opening from melee version. =\ The open is actually the part that makes it the most dungeon-like.
Pinkie Pie
30-11-07, 07:24
Temple stage in Brawl? YES! Here's hoping my other favourites like Brinstar Depths, Big Blue and Rainbow Ride make it as well!
Yes! I like the annoying stages! =D
Sidenote: Nice remix of the Zelda 2 temple there. Sure it may be the old remix with a new intro, but the new intro's fairly cool.
Sidenote 2: Anyone realise that next week's the original launch date for Brawl? I'm expecting a Megaton announcement. Come on the Next Third Party Character!
If they do announce that, my bets really are on either Pacman, Bomberman, or more hopefully, Megaman.
Sidenote 2: Anyone realise that next week's the original launch date for Brawl? I'm expecting a Megatron announcement. Come on the Next Third Party Character!Yeah, I can't want either!
*shot*
Anyways... Fecking yes! The Temple's my favourite stage in Melee!!! I hope Fox's stage returns too, but that it isn't so small...
Rainbow Dash
30-11-07, 11:21
So is it even possible for them to cock this up now? I mean, I just don't see how it can be anything but fan-dabby-fabulous.
Hell Yeah, I can't wait to play Brawl now. But I still have to wait 2 months.
But that's okay! ^,^
Ahh yes, the temple stage. I've had many ass-whoppings there. Good Times,gooooooooood times.
Brawl just earned 10 more awesome points.
BRAWL COMES OUT THIS MONDAY!
I WANT TO BELIEVE! *Shot*
Well, it better be a damn good update this Monday.
EDIT-Please Bring back Big Blue. I love that stage just for the music.
Pinkie Pie
03-12-07, 06:39
No post today Turp?
Today's Update (]http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/index.html) - Friend Codes (urgh).
Jeeze, Capcom Sega Nintendo, now i'm just disappointed. We knew that update was coming, but come on, today was Brawl's original US release date? Surely that meant something? :/
There'd better be something meaty for say, Christmas. Or my Birthday. Either suits me. XD
... so. yeah, friend codes and stuff. Bleh.
EDIT:
Oh.. WHAT? Only 64 friends? But I wanted to Brawl with and beat everyone here ;_;
turpinator
03-12-07, 06:49
... You pretty much explained why I didn't post with the explaination of the update. Too pathetic to mention, unfortunately. T_T
Terry von Feledae
03-12-07, 06:53
Oh.. WHAT? Only 64 friends? But I wanted to Brawl with and beat everyone here ;_;
Well, isn't it possible to remove people from the list, so that ypouc ould have some people on it for a time, and switch to other people later? Or would that be too much trouble with setting up etc?
Pinkie Pie
03-12-07, 06:53
Possible. I don't see why you couldn't remove friends. If you can't, that'd nerf tournament play right there.
I do see an "Erase from list" button there....
Pinkie Pie
03-12-07, 07:03
... well that proves i'm offically blind. XD
Good. Means we can have a Sprites INC tourney when the game comes out...
[/spoiler]
Rainbow Dash
03-12-07, 07:14
Ha! Finally, being a lonely, friendless misanthrope is worth something! IN YOUR FACE, SOCIABLE TYPES!
You know, Melee only allowed up to 64 players in tournaments anyway, the same might be true for Brawl's Tourney mode. Maybe that's why the Friend Roster is set at 64 maximum.
Yeah, but for online play, it gets laggier with people further apart, or more people. Plus, it says on one of the screens "2/4," meaning only 4 people in a game.
Good. Means we can have a Sprites INC tourney when the game comes out...
[/spoiler]
Yesh Plz.
How come we don't have more Wi-fi tourney's here?
No post today Turp?
Today's Update (]http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/index.html) - Friend Codes (urgh).
Jeeze, Capcom Sega Nintendo, now i'm just disappointed. We knew that update was coming, but come on, today was Brawl's original US release date? Surely that meant something? :/
There'd better be something meaty for say, Christmas. Or my Birthday. Either suits me. XD
... so. yeah, friend codes and stuff. Bleh.
EDIT:
Oh.. WHAT? Only 64 friends? But I wanted to Brawl with and beat everyone here ;_;
I really don't think that there are 64 active users here, and if there were, I don't think they'd all have Wii's, Wifi, and a copy of SSBB. :P
But yeah, I'm dissapointed in the recent updates.
I don't think they'd all have Wii's, Wifi, and a copy of SSBB. :P
If you have a Wii you have no excuse not to have Brawl. Wifi I can understand.
I really wasn't expecting any earth shattering update today, seeing as how the past ... 4? weeks have been pretty much lame. (Although the new Temple music was nice)
This update still leaves me wondering about the online play though, how customizable is it when you play with friends? I don't see any "Configure Match" thing or something like that in any of those screens... That would ruin all the fun if you couldn't make it a stock match without items :(
Fluttershy
03-12-07, 14:34
That's because they already went over that Forte. There was an update about that weeks ago. And yes, you can.
I didn't see it say anything about that. The update I remember was something about playing with people at home and being able to set up that stuff.
Oh wait, looked over it again, yeah. It was there. I should bother reading that stuff more often over just looking at the pictures. >_>
LowResAtari
03-12-07, 21:39
Wut. (http://tim.cstj.net/etudiant/2004/0445759/GENOCONFIRMED/newsStory.htm)
I officially think we're being BS'd by that.
LowResAtari
03-12-07, 21:44
Meh, it's fun to dream though.
Pinkie Pie
03-12-07, 21:51
Seems like a BS.
.....
He would be the third, third party character!
Think about it - Geno is a SQUARE character, he is NOT owned by Nintendo.
No. I do not want. Do not want Geno. Geno means - No Megaman. No Pacman. No Bomberman. All of those three equally deserve a spot on the list. Any of those three, I would be happy, (more happy for the formerest, but.. still.)
No. Do not want Geno. He's a friggin' third party character people!
I call the story BS. If I am proven wrong I shall go out, buy a hat. And then eat it.
The story isn't even on 1up.com!
Don't get me wrong, I would say I'm the biggest fan of Geno ever, but I know there's people slightly more dedicated than me.... but I think something like that wouldn't just be a hint from 1up.
They must just be mad that they can't pull an April Fools on us for Brawl, seeing as how it'll be out before then... hopefully.
EDIT - dang it Ace, can't you post slower than me?
Is Geno really able to be considered a third party character? I mean, I could understand if he popped up in other Square games, or made an appearance in Kingdom Hearts (ha ha) but both games he's ever been in were Mario games... I've always thought of him as one of Nintendo's...
Pinkie Pie
03-12-07, 21:56
The story isn't even on 1up.com!
Check that site's link folks! I fell for it initally but check that link? Definate bullshit.
I am serious about buying a hat and eating it. I will post a video on youtube if Geno's announced tommrow.
Hah, got you there. I did not say "If he's in the game." :P
Geno's a Third party character. He's owned by Squaresoft and not by Nintendo.
Why do you think there hasn't been a direct sequel to Mario RPG?
Because they'd have to buy the license for him. I can only assume theres so much budget for the license. Same applies to Brawl.
EDIT:
Hang on. There's a Treasure character in Brawl, alibiet as an Assist Trophy... I doubt Geno would appear as playable but an Assist Trophy is definately more likely.
Fuzion Phoenix
03-12-07, 22:55
... well that proves i'm offically blind. XD
Good. Means we can have a Sprites INC tourney when the game comes out...
[/spoiler]
Did someone say tourney? I'm in!
Oh, and was Ridley proved to be a boss?
Pinkie Pie
03-12-07, 23:14
Did someone say tourney? I'm in!
Oh, and was Ridley proved to be a boss?
Ridley can still go either way. My fingers are crossed he's playable, because Metroid needs another representative.
... and yes. I want to do a tourney with the Sprites INC players. We can only hope theres no lag issues.
Fuzion Phoenix
04-12-07, 00:01
By the way, did the reservations for Brawl in the USA end already, or is there still time to reserve a copy?
MonoEyeGuy
04-12-07, 00:22
If Megaman's not in this game, I will march an angry mob straight to N.o.A! Who's with me?
Absolutely not me. You can't get angry at Nintendo because they included Sonic, and not Megaman. Megaman has made no appearances on the Wii.
Ah, this may be late, but whatever.
If you have a Wii, there's no excuse not to have Brawl, as Forte said. However, if you're on Inc, it means you have internet, meaning, your Wii can hook up to it no problem. ;p
At any rate, I'd love for the Blue Bomber to be in, but right now, it doesn't seem like things are going that.
Solarblade
04-12-07, 02:35
Dec. 3
The day... (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c137/Solar13lade/youwillremember2.jpg)
*Note: That came from a different forum, so yea. Just spreading it and killing the joke. It's what I do.*
Friends list, means I can stalk keep track of peoples and the such. Fun!
By the way, did the reservations for Brawl in the USA end already, or is there still time to reserve a copy?My local EB Games isn't taking reservations anymore, but I'm not in the US. Chances are though, that most places have all their copy's reserved already (though I know some places take as many rreservations as people make, even if they won't be receiving that many copies). Not saying they are, just saying it's likely.
I don't care either way though; got my reservation back in October. ;p
turpinator
04-12-07, 03:29
I don't care either way though; got my reservation back in October. ;p
Same. :P
And I'll also do something stupid like ACE if Geno actally gets confirmed, and I fricken mean it, no exceptions. If he does get confirmed I'll take requests as to what I should do and I'll choose the one I like the most. (mostly something that won't cost me money and is SOMEWHAT tame :P)
...
I don't even know who Geno is! >.>;
I'd like the last place to go to Megaman (any version except SF) or Bomberman. Of course, I always have Omnimusha should Megaman not pull through. ^.^
turpinator
04-12-07, 03:42
...
I don't even know who Geno is! >.>;
I'd like the last place to go to Megaman (any version except SF) or Bomberman. Of course, I always have Omnimusha should Megaman not pull through. ^.^
This is Geno. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Geno.gif)
Fluttershy
04-12-07, 06:06
Update: Returning Pokemon
Just a list of returning Pokemon from the last games.
Suicune
Lugia
Entei
Staryu
Bellossom
Ho-Oh
Wobbuffet
Togepi
Snorlax
Celebi
Mew
It appears Mew may drop a CD when it appears. And like always, rare Pokemon will appear few and far between.
turpinator
04-12-07, 06:06
HA! Knew it, he wasn't updated with. XD
UPDATE: Returning Pokemon
Suicune, Lugia, Entei, Staryu, Bellosom, Ho-oh, Wobbuffet, Togepi, and Snorlax. Mew and Celebi return too, but actually have uses this time: They can drop CDs!
EDIT: Dammit!!!!!!!! DX Why did you even bother posting this when you know I was gonna? T_T
Fluttershy
04-12-07, 06:09
Sorry, I couldn't go in to work tonight due to lack of supervisors and a storm so I got bored. But these updates are pretty lackluster lately. Oh, and so much for Geno... thank god.
turpinator
04-12-07, 06:12
Yeah, I was actually scared I would have to do something when he possibly got confirmed. XD BTW, with my job there is no such thing as a "day off", piss weather, hell or high waters. :P
I'll let it go this time. Just don't do it again. XP
Fluttershy
04-12-07, 06:14
Can't guarentee that. I just got the week of christmas off and I don't do much at home. Might post updates just to spite you. XD
turpinator
04-12-07, 06:16
Eh, for this one you can't really tell a difference between our posts, but when the good info comes rolling in again, expect me to royally smoke your ass with quick, concise detail. XP
Terry von Feledae
04-12-07, 06:22
Excuse me, but is this thread about SSBB or about Turp's update notyfying schedule? :P
In any case, is it just me or are most of these Pokémon somewhat low-poly? I know that that's on close-up and you probably won't see that during normal gameplay, but still... Well, I guess it's better than using their sprites. :P
turpinator
04-12-07, 06:26
Excuse me, but is this thread about SSBB or about Turp's update notyfying schedule? :P
In any case, is it just me or are most of these Pokémon somewhat low-poly? I know that that's on close-up and you probably won't see that during normal gameplay, but still... Well, I guess it's better than using their sprites. :P
I noticed that too, I almost thought they were using their old models from Meelee.
And my schedule is important to me. :P
The poly count on them is low in order to save space, probably. That's what I think, anyway.
One question: Why do you guys keep complaining abour the updates? It's really annoying.
It's like you guys want them to hand you a guidebook to everything in the game before it even comes out. Not only that, you're treating the updates as a right, when they're a priviledge! Shut up already; it's better than nothing, right?
*Ahem*
So yeah, I'm happy that Luigia's back. I'm not a gan of Pokemon anymore, but he'll always a spot in my heart... If I had a heart that is.
@KR: Seems that way, with all the things they're putting in this game, they need to make room somewhere and all the things can be top-notch graphics/polygon count. But when were graphics ever important anyways?
*Points to Super Mario 64*
EDIT: Great. Now you guys have me complaining about people complaining! My head hurts. >.<
I think it would probably be cooler if they did use the sprites for the pokemon >_>... well come on, it's what makes the retro assist trophies cool. Besides, who really pays attention to the pokemon? I never look at them when they pop up to say "Ooh look at the pretty pokemans!", and aside from that, I never use items unless I'm playing adventure/classic mode and I have to. So the low poly count doesn't really bother me. That's like getting mad at the fact the food is flat.
oh well, I guess no Geno either, I expected as much though. I'm not sure whether I would be glad to see him or not, but I know for a fact him being in would own having Starforce version RockMan, which you KNOW they would probably use.
Ryo Hazaki
04-12-07, 15:18
I'd take Model X over SF Megaman any day.
Pinkie Pie
04-12-07, 16:43
I get the feeling they've simply recycled the Pokemon models from the previous game and altered the textures slightly. They DO look out of place by quite a bit.
Then again, they're adding in assist trophies, which seem to get the same amount of work that the main characters get, so we can't expect everything to be top notch simply because of budget reasons.
Yeah, we have to remember that it's a video game, and that regardless of how much profit it will make, they still have a budget and a max disk space. They're including a lot for the players to do, so don't expect everything to blow you away graphics-wise.
I'm sure it won't effect the gameplay, so really, who cares?
Pinkie Pie
04-12-07, 17:37
You probably won't notice it in game. But as far as pre-release screenshots go, it's easily noticiable.
Just thought of something...
One of the last updates before the release date (If not the last) will likely be what you can do on the charector select screen... (Unless they've shown the charector select screen already)
Mainly because although it would be a tame update... it would be most informative... as it could easily be used to guess at the number of secret charectors....
Oh and personally I'd like a megaman... but if nintendo goes out and buys geno outright (Turning him from a 3rd party to a 1st) and he gets in too that would rock(really wishful thinking)...
They've already done an update concerning character selection, maybe two concerning the topic if I'm not mistaken.
I still don't know who Geno is, but a Megaman Model ZX or a Star Force Megaman seems likely should anyone form the franchise be in the game. Though, with Star Force 2 coming out, it would probably be the Star Force Megaman.
They've already done an update concerning character selection, maybe two concerning the topic if I'm not mistaken.
I still don't know who Geno is, but a Megaman Model ZX or a Star Force Megaman seems likely should anyone form the franchise be in the game. Though, with Star Force 2 coming out, it would probably be the Star Force Megaman.
The saddest thing I see about your post is that you have never played Super Mario RPG: One of the best games of the Forth Generation area.
The other sad thing is that you want the ZX or Starforce Megaman in. If Mega is weaseling in, he's bringing his classic duds for sure.
I'm not saying that I want that version of Megman (I'd personally want his X version though), I'm saying which ones are more likely considering which games Capcom has in production/circulation concerning the franchise.
True, but I think Nintendo would try to push for the original... they seem to be going for the more nostalgic characters for playables, and the assist trophies anyway.
True, but I think Nintendo would try to push for the original... they seem to be going for the more nostalgic characters for playables, and the assist trophies anyway.
Because Zero Suit Samus and Wario Ware outfits are nostalgic, right?
Ok, and thats how many out of the more retro ones?..
Corrupt Insanity
04-12-07, 21:48
Couldnt you use zero suit samus in the old metroid games.Also ther is fox and Zelda having brown hair...Also which I'm still confused about Bowsers long flowing hair...
[fish in space]
04-12-07, 23:22
If megaman's in, they're going with classic. They aren't really trying to endorse series, they're just picking the characters that best represent the series.
Pinkie Pie
04-12-07, 23:26
Classic Megaman is Capcom's mascot.
Solid Snake is Konami's mascot.
Sonic is Sega's mascot.
Nuff. Said.
If any third party character goes in, my bets are still on Pacman, Megaman and Bomberman. All three characters are the mascots of their owners.
What kind of moveset could they possibly give Pac-Man, anyway?
If they can do it for Mr. Game and Watch, they can do it for Packman. How exactly? I Just. Don't. Know.
turpinator
05-12-07, 03:21
Classic Megaman is Capcom's mascot.
Solid Snake is Konami's mascot.
Sonic is Sega's mascot.
Nuff. Said.
If any third party character goes in, my bets are still on Pacman, Megaman and Bomberman. All three characters are the mascots of their owners.
I'd laugh if they proved you wrong and used Captain Commando instead. XD Nah, if he did show up he'd be an AT for sure. ;P
turpinator
05-12-07, 06:19
DOUBLE UPDATE: The Battle for the Smash Ball
Basically a rundown of the Final Smash technique, how to get it, and the opportune time to use it.
*Special Note: New info regarding the ability to smack the final smash ability out of someone after they aquired the smash ball.
Music: X: Tunnel Scene (not Megaman)
A song based off of a Japan-only GB game called "X". Also an explaination of the inclusion of music from series that don't have any relevance to the Smash franchise other than the music itself being added to the music lists.
Pinkie Pie
05-12-07, 09:42
Awesome music. Shame about the other half really. Altough nice to know the Smash Balls can be turned off!
I already knew this information via Youtube videos, but the music was pretty nicely done.
As useless as I thought this update might turn out to be, I found it somewhat pleasing to read. It's good to know you can turn Smash Balls off.
I also hate these music updates, since I have to get home before I can listen to them... stupid school computers with no sound.
Pity smash? Ahh... Crap... But wait... Could this mean that two final smashes COULD happen at the same time?
I wonder if you can turn off pity smash? That wasn't included in the update and I just missed it, was it?
I don't think they did...
Both about the turning off pity smash... although I'd assume turning off smash balls did that as well...
And About the charector select...
They've shown parts of the select screen alright but not the whole thing yet...
If you can prove me wrong please do so... So I can start to guess how many secret charectors there will be...
If you mean the area showing all available characters on one screen (aka character select screen), no, they haven't shown it to us yet.
turpinator
06-12-07, 06:08
UPDATE: King Dedede's Final Smash: Waddle Dee Army
Basically a suped-up vrsion of Dedede's normal Waddle Dee summon special move, except the little critters move at a much quicker pace and with such a large volume of them it'll be tough to dodge. There'll most definitely be Gordos in the group as well. (though it isn't mentioned if there'll be Waddle Doo's as well or not)
King Dedede isn't as "evil" as he should be. I mean, come on. Remember the "Kirby Kirby Kirby" Tv Show that used to play on the Foxbox? It was so much fun! King Dedede was freaking awesome, too. His character design is based too much off of the GBA Series. His Final Smash would probably look cooler if he did something awesome with his hammer, too. >,>
I know, it's horrible that they're basing him off the video games, the place of his origin, and not that somewhat cruddy Kirby show. Such a shame.
King's Final Smash seems appropriate in my opinion. It's like the update says, he has someone else do his work for him.
Hah! I'm psychic! I knew he would could have an army of Waddledees zooming all over the place. (Too bad they don't zoom out of the sky, heh)
I expected as much out of Dedede's final smash, although raining food everywhere seems more appropriate for a glutton like him. But what kind of Final Smash is that? Maybe we should ask Peach...
I guess his is better than Wario's, though.
Wario's Final Smash actually looks like it could be a lot of fun, but I guess we won't know until we give it a shot ourselves.
I'm wondering if the Waddle dees wander around like the ones he throws for his side special.
*Imagines using this in the closed safety hatch on the norfair stage...*
And this Dedede is true to the anime Dedede as well. He used his waddle dees for everything there too.
Off-topic:The anime was suprisingly game acurate for an game based anime... Kirby lost a freaking life!
*Wishes for a season 2*
MonoEyeGuy
07-12-07, 00:23
I liked Kirby: Right Back At Ya, but I found Meta Knight's whole "Spanish swordsman with a cape" persona a little infuriating. HE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ZORRO!! Seriously Kirby-show-maker guy, come on!
I liked Kirby: Right Back At Ya, but I found Meta Knight's whole "Spanish swordsman with a cape" persona a little infuriating. HE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ZORRO!! Seriously Kirby-show-maker guy, come on!
After watching that show, I can't think of any other voice that suits Meta Knight better. XD
Advent Axl
07-12-07, 00:27
Zorro was the coolest. . .in the 40's
MonoEyeGuy
07-12-07, 00:28
I'd like to see a video of Mega Man fighting Mario soon. Please, oh please Nintendo, put Mega Man in Brawl! That way, we can have two blue guys who represent their respective companies in Brawl. He's Capcom's mascot, just like Mario is Nintendo's mascot and Snake is Konami's mascot. After all, Capcom needs some Wii represenation.
You know what's gonna be fun? Player Vs. Player, only Smash Balls for items. >;D
Advent Axl
07-12-07, 00:33
I'd like to see a video of Mega Man fighting Mario soon. Please, oh please Nintendo, put Mega Man in Brawl! That way, we can have two blue guys who represent their respective companies in Brawl. He's Capcom's mascot, just like Mario is Nintendo's mascot and Snake is Konami's mascot. After all, Capcom needs some Wii represenation.
Rumor has it that A Megaman RPG is coming out again ;D so we may have hope
Rumor has it that A Megaman RPG is coming out again ;D so we may have hope
There's millions of rumors for a Megaman game on the Wii.
Does anyone else want RockMan Trigger in brawl more than the others? I feel like he would fit in the most for some reason. Probably because of the wide variety of weaponry he would have at his disposal, and since he seems more capable of physical combat than the other Rock...Mans?
turpinator
07-12-07, 01:35
Does anyone else want RockMan Trigger in brawl more than the others? I feel like he would fit in the most for some reason. Probably because of the wide variety of weaponry he would have at his disposal, and since he seems more capable of physical combat than the other Rock...Mans?
I guess that's somewhat true, considering one of the obtainable items in Legends is a drill arm. I liked using that weapon. :D
Fluttershy
07-12-07, 01:35
Hmm.. I never thought of that. You're right. He would fit more. X would be a close second though cause of the Hadoken and what not.
turpinator
07-12-07, 01:37
I'm pretty sure X gets a shoryuken (sp?) move in one of the games as well. (not sure)
Yeah. He gets Shoryuken in X2. But If you're going to throw X in just so he can shout "Hadooooooken!", why not just throw in Ken?
Fluttershy
07-12-07, 01:41
Which is why I said "and what not". I forgot how to spell it. And he gets that in X2.
outposted...
turpinator
07-12-07, 01:48
I didn't know. I was actually asking, not telling you. I just didn't phrase it right. >_>
Fluttershy
07-12-07, 01:51
No prob. Just sayin.
Advent Axl
07-12-07, 02:40
There's millions of rumors for a Megaman game on the Wii.
I meant a huger Inafune slip, mentions RPG for "Megaman"
which would explain that artwork of him in MMXCM
Just so you guys all know, any of the Megaman incarnations are capable of fighting; they're fighting robots. And you can't say Trigger has a larger arsenal, especially when Trigger's the only Megaman who can't copy his opponents attacks. >.>
@Turp: Last I checked, any of the Megaman can use a Drill Arm.
Fluttershy
07-12-07, 03:14
And do. Except for Zero.
Terry von Feledae
07-12-07, 04:34
Remember that who fought or didn't fight in his games doesn't matter in SSB; The best example to this is Samus, as she never did close-range fighting in her games. Characters generally got a few attacks they never used in their games.
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