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Seriously..When will Zero know his entire Past?!
I mean in MMX: He canīt remember the Classic Series
MMZ: He canīt remember MMX and Classic
MMZX: He cannīt remember anything
Altough I donīt think that he will because he died in MMZ4 and then in MMZXA
Rainbow Dash
31-10-07, 18:57
Not everyone has played every one of those series you thoughtlessly spoiled, you know. :/
Iīm sorry,Iīm sorry,Iīm sorry,Iīm sorry...I forgot to put it in spoiler tags ,Iīm sorry,Iīm sorry
Terry von Feledae
31-10-07, 19:05
ZXA:
Why does everyone think for sure his Biometal died at the end of ZXA? I thought it was unknown what happens to it.
X-series(no, I don't know why I am putting this in spoilers either):
He DOES remember what happened to him previously at the end. All of it. Wily building him, him destroying Gamma's unit and then almost destroying Sigma. Of course, he forgot it all again after his second hibernation, but still... Also, remember that these thoughts about having killed so many people made him all depressed and suicidal, so it's probably better if he forgot them :P
MMX
I didnīt know about it....When did he remember?
Terry von Feledae
31-10-07, 19:10
MMX
I didnīt know about it....When did he remember?
X5, Zero's ending.
ZXA
In the extra cutscene, The big 4 is standing around Thomas. If they weren't destroyed, then neither should Model Z. Even if he pulled a Mother Elf type trick, that'd only guarentee his survival.
The whole 'Zero not remembering his past' thing reminds me of the whole 'Samus starting every single game by losing her weapons and powers' thing.
Or mor relatably the whole Megaman never seems to hold onto the old master weapons conept.
Terry von Feledae
31-10-07, 20:12
The whole 'Zero not remembering his past' thing reminds me of the whole 'Samus starting every single game by losing her weapons and powers' thing.
With the difference that Zero's memory loss actually has plot relevance and some sort of reason.
Exactly. Blue 42. With a dash of cinnamon and a cup of magic class.
Anywho, I am kinda upset that after playing games for hours collecting everything (MMZ1), you go buy the second game (MMZ2), and you have to "acquire" all the skills back. D:
Zan Sidera
31-10-07, 22:24
You know, could we not bother with spoiler tags of decade old games?
-X series:
Zero remembers what he remembers from the moment this self came into existance; from after the Zero vs Sigma fight. His true self has its own memories and knows all. They might be the same, but they're still different characters. The memories of Zero's true self include everything from short period awakening during creation and sealing up to the fated conftrontation in which he was struck by a mysterious condition and knocked out cold. The moment of his reemergence in X5, he knows all this, and all events his other self experienced aswell.
In the canon ending to X5, Zero expressed realizing all truth, but being unaware of creator's identity. Probably because not even his true self knows that.
-ZERO series:
Having hybernation sickness, he lost his memory. But fragments of his memory have returned on a need to know basis. He feels things instinctively, and some of his past enemies have been shown to him by Phoenix Magnion. His memory is irrelevant, though. His resolve is what mattered, which is the highlight of Rockman ZERO4, mirroring himself in Elf Wars.
-ZX series, not going into ZXA:
Being disembodied, now a Biometal, there's no proof he does or doesn't remember, he just never mentioned it. But before and during Elf Wars references have been lacking in ZX. The only confirmed lack of memory is his memory of the moment between Biometal creation and acquiring by Giro (Memories of shortly after their creation.)
Ok, is it just me or is amnesia a very over played card in rpgs and jap games. Three games I can think up off the top of my head are Final Fantasy 7 (Cloud), Final Fantasy 8 (all of the playable char save for Irvine) and Star Wars:Kotor 1 and 2 (both main char).
They should of played Zero out as the repenting criminal/murderer or what have you. Would of added a little more story onto the games...
Advent Axl
01-11-07, 01:10
X5, Zero's ending.
You mean the one where X remembers him, or the one where X is in Denial and "acts like" he doesn't remember him
Terry von Feledae
01-11-07, 01:15
You mean the one where X remembers him, or the one where X is in Denial and "acts like" he doesn't remember him
ZERO's ending. He remembers his past and then realizes that he needs to die.
Advent Axl
01-11-07, 01:41
Yeah, well he's dead now, but not in X5. He says that but he has a choice to be good or Evil
Terry von Feledae
01-11-07, 01:50
Yeah, well he's dead now, but not in X5. He says that but he has a choice to be good or Evil
He DID die in X5. He just got rebuild(Likely by Wily). Also, he has no choice, seeing as he always spreads the virus even when his own personality is "good".
Which raises the question why Signas, Alia and the other less important Irregular Hunters weren't infected yet.
Advent Axl
01-11-07, 02:07
You have a point, and Lifesaver was the one that detected the Virus in him, he told Signas, but he didn't seem to care, maybe they will die in X9 (if there ever is one)
Wily rebuilt him? Probably since Light fixed what was left of X
I'm almost positive that the X series is done, meaning, no X9 (though Command Mission could be considered that, in which case, no X10).
DragonZero
02-11-07, 03:14
He came back from the dead like, what, THREE TIMES?
We should be glad he's even around anymore, who cares about his memories?
I mean, having amnesia would suck, but if I had to pick between amnesia and DEATH...
turpinator
02-11-07, 03:59
Sometimes amnesia is its own form of death/torture DZ.
DragonZero
02-11-07, 04:03
I know that, but X was always around to remind him of his memories...
turpinator
02-11-07, 04:17
Yeah, but how frustrated would you feel if you were being told stuff about your past that you couldn't remember, and weren't 100% sure that they were true. It would take alot of guts to just go with it and hope for the best.
Advent Axl
02-11-07, 19:33
He came back as model Z and died again. . .so that's four, anyway
Well Since ZXA is'nt going as smoothly in JP we (America) need to purchase 10,000,000 copies, for ZX3 to be made, so if this isn't met, Capcom will be focusing on MMSF series, and when this series is done then like they said, they will worki on the other series
[People KEEP forgetting Spoiler tags. - Terry]
Terry von Feledae
02-11-07, 19:45
He came back as model Z and died again. . .so that's four, anyway
I'd like to answer with a quote:
ZXA
In the extra cutscene, The big 4 is standing around Thomas. If they weren't destroyed, then neither should Model Z. Even if he pulled a Mother Elf type trick, that'd only guarentee his survival.
Stop trying to show your own assumptions like facts, Axl. :/
Advent Axl
02-11-07, 19:53
If you say so Terry, if you say so ;)
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