A few questions(Spoilers?)

[The Walrus]

1. What happens to Zero between X6/X7 if he went to sleep in the capsule?

2. Before capcom added X6-X8, how did Zero get to(survive to make it to) the Zero series?

3. Is there any real explanation of what happened between the X and Z series? If so, what is it?

[SpeedReemix]

I can answer 3:

X built Neo Arcadia where humans and reploid live in peace. But A human named Weil created Omega and started elf wars. Because Elves was good weapon to use. But X used Dark Elf ( Mother Elf ) to finish war. Then X made a ship named Euruise ( I hope true spelling )and send Omega and Weil to space. They gave a machine body to Weil to live with. X was afraided about power of Dark Elf and sealed her into his body. Zero was afraided about his nightmare virus that he has. And sealed his body. So, after this in Z1, Ciel awakened him with Passy. In Z3 they found that Spaceship Euruise in first stage. Then blah blah ... You know story then.

[Loki]

A bit better of an explanation:

X built Neo Arcadia where humans and reploids lived in peace. But a human named Weil created Omega and started the Elf Wars. Because Elves were weapons for the sole use to help reploids, and not be used for evil(like Weil did), X used the Mother Elf (later the Dark Elf in the MMZ series) to finish the war. After that, X made a ship named Euruise(SP?) and sent Omega and Weil deep into space. They gave a machine body to Weil to live with. X was afraid of the seemingly endless power of the Mother Elf, he sacrificed himself to seal her. Zero was afraid about the Maverick virus that he had, so he shut down his body. After the "Elf Wars", Ciel found Zero and awakened him with Passy. And then there's the MMZ series.

^Edited SR's text.

[Grid Man]

Not gonna bother reading SR's description of number 3, so I hope it's right. :P

As for Number 1, the scene with Zero being sealed is merely foreshadowing. The seal actually occurs at a much later date.

And for Number 2... well, there's really no point in thinking about that. The games continued after X5, so questioning what their stance was before X6's release is pretty much irrelevant now.

[Darx]

1. What happens to Zero between X6/X7 if he went to sleep in the capsule?
Likely nothing happened to him : the ending where he goes into the capsule is not canon (or not happening between X6 and X7).

2. Before capcom added X6-X8, how did Zero get to(survive to make it to) the Zero series?
Since Zero disappears in X’s endings and flagrantly dies in his own ending, he was likely to be found by Ciel and resurrected with the help of Passy (Ciel's cyber-elf).

3. Is there any real explanation of what happened between the X and Z series? If so, what is it?
You've already got an answer, with some inaccuracies I think.
1) I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that Neo Arcadia was build after the Elf War, not before.
2) Also, I’m almost positive that only Omega was sent in space within the spaceship: Weil was just exiled from Neo Arcadia into the wastelands.

[Zan Sidera]

After that, X made a ship named Euruise(SP?)

No. "Eurasia" is the Space Colony from X5. The ship, which is never noted as X made, is the Forbidden Ark.

nightmare virus

No, go play X6 again. The Nightmare Virus is what Gate created and was destroyed within the events of X6. It was created using Zero's DNA data but it never once infected Zero.

Zero is infected with Sigma Virus, which fails to induce awakening, but is lying dormant in his systems. As a result, he is spreading the Virus during missions. For this reason, he admitted himself into a research institute.

Timeline:

-X1 - Sigma rebels.
->
-X5 - The Space Colony Eurasia is sent on a collision course with Earth. Earth was saved but the explosion as well as the collision of Eurasia's remainder badly damaged the Earth.
->
-X6-X7 - Start of recovery operations after the dreaded Earth Crisis.
->
-X8 - First Orbital Elevator.
->
-XCM
->
-Zero seals himself for an estimated 102 years in order to remove the dormant but ever spreading Sigma Virus from his systems.
->
The Big4 of X-bioroid are created and claim their place as wielders of the 10 legendary Shining Arms. The legendary weapons used in the Maverick Wars. They at some point after this are involved in Earth recovery operations before becoming the Guardians of Master X. *
->
Zero is studied as part of Project Elpizo (Birth of Hope) the project to end the war once and for all. From the Virus, a cure is created by a female ancestor of Ciel. The Sigma Antibody Program Mother Elf is created. Lone Hero MegaMan X uses her and ends the war. All Maverick Programming inside of Reploids is deleted and the Reploids are restored to their original state.
->
-Weil a Neo Arcadian scientist * is unhappy with the result of Mother Elf. He steals Mother Elf and curses her by awakening the dormant Sigma Virus data within her, becoming the Dark Elf. Using the Dark Elf, the Elf Wars begins. The war lasted 4 years and became known as the worst war in history. 90% of all Reploid and 60% of all humans were killed.
->

-Weil begins the operation to control all Reploids. He copies Dark Elf to create the Baby Elves.
-Weil uses the body of Zero and begins empowering him, turning Zero into Omega.
-Zero awakens in a copy body.

->
-The Dark Elf is seemingly lost from Weil's hands and used against him. The Reploids controlled by Weil are now against him.
->
-The closing of the war, Omega is completed and fights as Weil's finest in the final battle. He's accompanied by an army of Golems. However, Omega is challenged and defeated by the combined might of X and Zero.
->

-To avoid another Elf Wars, Omega is ejected into Space onboard the "Forbidden Ark"
-A certain prodecure is developed by the people of that time; Weil is put into a self rejuvinating armor and forced to live an eternity in a world without light or nature, he is banished from Neo Arcadia*
-X founds Neo Arcadia *
-Zero goes to sleep again for reasons wholly his own.

->

- X seals the Dark Elf using his body at the base of Yggdrasil. Which stands at the top of an Orbital Elevator. The government panics and searches for a replacement.
-Ciel is born and genetically enhanced.

->
-Ciel age 9 creates Copy-X to replace X.
->
-Copy-X functions fine for a few years, though he eventually begins falsely accusing Reploids due to an energy crisis that has befallen Neo Arcadia.
->
-Originally helping the persecution of Reploids, Ciel realizes it is wrong and forms a Resistance.
->
-Resistance overrun by Neo Arcadia. In order to survive, Ciel searches for a legend to save them all. The legend of Zero, whose said to be sleeping somewhere in Neo Arcadia.
->
-Ciel discovers Zero and revives him. But inside Ciel's mind, it seemed as if she heard the unconcious Zero beckon her to leave him be.
->
-ZERO1.

*The creation time period of Neo Arcadia is a subject of much contradiction. For all intends and purposes it's after Elf Wars by X.

The above is a condensed version of the entire timeline. There's a lot more events inbetween, stories told by Andrew, Alouette, and TK31/Elpizo.

[The Walrus]

Thanks guys.

I have 1 more question now: What exactly did Weil intend to accomplish(assuming it's more then the cliched "World Domination) by beginning the Elf Wars?

[Terry von Feledae]

His original intent was to stop the Maverick-problem, he worked together with Ciel's ancestor for this. However, he had a different plan than Ciel's ancestor, but her plan succeeded, and his was ignored. I guess he sorta had a fit of insanity because of that.

[Zan Sidera]

I should note that Weil also has extremist views of what "Mavericks" are. He seems to believe all Reploids not under his control are Maverick.

[The Walrus]

That explains alot. Thanks guys

[AeroMan]

Wait, what the the 10 Shining Arms? I never heard of those...

If there's any weapons that would be Legendary, it would be rthe X-Buster, Z-Saber, and A-Pistols(? Axl guns, whatever).

[Grid Man]

Yeah, you've got X, Zero, and Axl, plus the Big 4. That's 7. Incidentally, there are 3 more folks from MMXCM who could fill in the roles of the remaining Shining Arms.

[Zan Sidera]

Axl's not confirmed. And there's some confusion wether or not some weapons count double. (Sodom and Gomorrah for instance) We have 6 confirmed.

[The Walrus]

So we'd have: X's Buster, Zero's Saber, Harpy's Twin Sabers, Fef's Cannon, Levi's Spear/Trident, and Phantom's Kunai?

Only other possibilites I can think of are Axl's Pistols, Massimo's Axe, Marino's Dagger, Cinnimon's Drill(?), Sigma's X1 "Lightsaber"(He WAS a MH originally)?. Those of you who've beaten MMX:CM know why Spider's not included

Zan: Sodom and Gomorrah?

[DWN-060 Clownman]

AoR: Sodom and Gomorrah are Fefnir's guns.

[The Walrus]

So Sodom's the normal gun he uses and Gomorrah's(totally forgot that Fefnir had two guns) the big one that shoots the bomb?

[Terry von Feledae]

I believe Sodom and Gomorrah are identical. He actually has two guns of the same caliber in some of his attacks, and his Model uses two identical guns too, so...

[DWN-060 Clownman]

It's refering to both of them, unless Zan corrects me. I'm not sure about his big gun, I think it's a combination of his two, which might be the form of the actual Shining Arm as opposed to the separate guns. The most I can find on big boy's name is the actual attack.

Zero 1 (Didn't exist)
ショット (Shot)
グランドブレイク (Ground Break) *Could be Grand Break too*
ロケットアッパー (Rocket Upper)
チャージ (Charge)
メテオレイン (EX) (Meteor Rain)

Zero 2 (Does exist)
ショット (Shot)
グランドブレイク (Ground Break) *Could be Grand Break too*
ロケットアッパー (Rocket Upper)
ファイアエクスプロージョン (Fire Explosion) *This would be the big gun's attack*
チャージ (Charge)
ヘルファイア（ＥＸ） (Hellfire)

[Zan Sidera]

The RZOCW entry about Fefnir's multiple launcher is confusing. It's not clear wether it says they should be counted as one. Or each is counted as one.. But yeah, as far as I know, the big gun is the combination of both..

A-bullets is potentially one of the 10 Shining Arms. (Having one means you're a legendary Irregular Hunter. As the weapons are IH specific.) Sigma's sword in X1 probably doesn't count, as Sigma went Maverick. In addition, since RZOCW is inherantly confused wether or not to count Elf Wars as Irregular Wars. Some of the wielders might only have fought during the Elf Wars.

[Azzara]

So, Zero slept twice?
I have always believed that he went to sleep after he fought Omega and got his body stolen only recently (before he awoke).

[Zan Sidera]

So, Zero slept twice?
I have always believed that he went to sleep after he fought Omega and got his body stolen only recently (before he awoke).

Zero indeed slept twice. Timeline as presented in RZOCW:

Story of ZERO
-Iregular War outbreak
-Zero is put into sleep
-Mother Elf is cursed and becomes the Dark Elf
-Vile causes the Elf Wars
-Zero awakens in a new body, he and X put an end to the Elf Wars
-In the forgotten laboratory, Zero goes to sleep again
-X creates Neo Arcadia
-X disappears from Neo Arcadia
-Ciel creates Copy X
-Neo Arcadia befalls an Energy Crisis
-Repression of innocent reploids begins
-Ciel founds a resistance
-Ciel revives Zero

and:

Sigma Virus

But,

as Zero bustled about for the sake of fulfilling his missions as an Iregular Hunter

the Sigma virus lying dormant within his own body was scattered throughout the world

inviting an ironic result.

And so Zero, having become carrier of the Sigma Virus, was admitted to the research facility.

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it also goes on to detail that Mother Elf was made from analyzing Sigma Virus within the sleeping Zero. And that this body was used for Omega. (Zero hints in TELOS tracks that Omega already has his body, "Fighting another one of myself." "Begone, my nightmare!" and in Z3, Baby Elves, who know only of Elf Wars facts, not yet having met Weil in Z3 and slept since that time up to Z2, often used the term "Fake Reploid!")

[AeroMan]

But there's always Lumine, I wonder how he fits into the story now?

[Terry von Feledae]

Lumine didn't have anything to do with Zero. Lumine was more of an Axl-counterpart.

[Zan Sidera]

But there's always Lumine, I wonder how he fits into the story now?

Amplification of Axl's abilities is the only notable change since that time. Potential "Becoming Sigma" for Axl, and potential planned revival to kick ass in the never to be released X9/XCM2. All in all, his importance lies in the Irregular Wars of 21XX and 22XX. For ZERO/ZX, Axl's improved Copy Ability is the only thing really noteworthy.

(For now)

[The Walrus]

Zero indeed slept twice. Timeline as presented in RZOCW:

Story of ZERO
-Iregular War outbreak
-Zero is put into sleep
-Mother Elf is cursed and becomes the Dark Elf
-Vile causes the Elf Wars
-Zero awakens in a new body, he and X put an end to the Elf Wars
-In the forgotten laboratory, Zero goes to sleep again
-X creates Neo Arcadia
-X disappears from Neo Arcadia
-Ciel creates Copy X
-Neo Arcadia befalls an Energy Crisis
-Repression of innocent reploids begins
-Ciel founds a resistance
-Ciel revives Zero


So why doesn't Zero seem to remember when he and X battled Omega, and where's Axl during all this(it seems like he just faded away)?

[Zan Sidera]

So why doesn't Zero seem to remember when he and X battled Omega

As said in ZERO1, Hybernation illness. Memory loss. It's however made very clear that he recognizes Omega in ZERO3.

Axl

Axl has never been a part of the ZERO series. He only gains status within ZERO through ZXA, and even then, it's not made entirely clear if Model A is Axl.

[Rave T-blade]

Axl has never been a part of the ZERO series. He only gains status within ZERO through ZXA, and even then, it's not made entirely clear if Model A is Axl.

Axl wasn't in the MMZ, that's true. But BioMetal A is Axl, because...

- He uses the copy shot so he can change into a boss like in MMXCM.
- nobody else looks like that model in the X or Zero series.

[Terry von Feledae]

Axl wasn't in the MMZ, that's true. But BioMetal A is Axl, because...

- He uses the copy shot so he can change into a boss like in MMXCM.
- nobody else looks like that model in the X or Zero series.
I've heard those arguments SO FREAKING OFTEN. But... They don't really prove anything.

It's likely, but really, we can't say anything for sure. Saying "Model A IS Axl!" is wrong. "Model A is likely to be Axl" is what people should say instead.

[Rave T-blade]

oh well... why was i actually posting things which game i've never played anyways? I don't know anymore... well sorry about this then.

[SpeedReemix]

Thats what I'm saying it can look like axl, but master albert said its his own design. And for copy shot ability. There was millions of reploids that can use copy-chips.

[Zan Sidera]

It's likely, but really, we can't say anything for sure. Saying "Model A IS Axl!" is wrong. "Model A is likely to be Axl" is what people should say instead.

We also can't say Model X is RockmanX, we also can't say Model Z is ZERO. Can't say Model H, P, F, L are Harpuia, Phantom, Fafnir and Leviathan. Nor can we say Prairie is Alouette, nor can we say First Commander is Ciel. ZX has always been purposesly vague. What's said about Model A never once applied to the entity within the LiveMetal. It applied to the secrets sealed within Model A and it's intended purpose.

There was millions of reploids that can use copy-chips.

Only one survived to be recorded in history as an S-class Irregular Hunter. The highest rank attainable. It's the rank of legends. And all the LiveMetals are derived from the legends of the Irregular Wars. The proof for Model A = Axl is as high as Model Z = ZERO.

[rickysio]

Zan. See attached.

Entire X8 Ending.

[AeroMan]

Yes, but he said only one SURVIVED. The others were probably trashed in the Maverick/Elf Wars. They weren't as advanced as Axl because he's a proto-type.

And what I've learned from ProtoMan is that proto-types - Pwnage over others.

[Zan Sidera]

See attached.

X8's ending, untill further mention is about XCM. And in XCM, Copy Chip Reploids are a myth. They might or might not exist. But there's clearly a facility at Gigantis, and Redips uses the Copy Chip. Howeverall, all we're aware of were trashed in XCM.

They weren't as advanced as Axl because he's a proto-type.

All New Generation Reploids had better Copy Chip abilities than Axl. Untill his rise in power that is. And after that rise in power he was outranked by the combination of a Copy Chip with two Supra Force Metals. Axl has hunter skill, however.

And what I've learned from ProtoMan is that proto-types - Pwnage over others.

ProtoMan's weaponry don't come from the fact he's a prototype, more that he was specifically built for combat when Wily repaired him.

[The Walrus]

Few new questions(YAY!)

1. What exactly is Model W/V's power? Rebirth or something, cause it seems to "rewrite" Serpents data for the final battle in ZX

2. Do Model's have a set apperance or do they(as I personally believe) change depending on the user? Like Aile/Vent's Model Z would look different then Giro's?

3. Was the Legion(and the three masters) around during ZX1?

[rickysio]

X8's ending, untill further mention is about XCM. And in XCM, Copy Chip Reploids are a myth. They might or might not exist. But there's clearly a facility at Gigantis, and Redips uses the Copy Chip. Howeverall, all we're aware of were trashed in XCM.



All New Generation Reploids had better Copy Chip abilities than Axl. Untill his rise in power that is. And after that rise in power he was outranked by the combination of a Copy Chip with two Supra Force Metals. Axl has hunter skill, however.



ProtoMan's weaponry don't come from the fact he's a prototype, more that he was specifically built for combat when Wily repaired him.

Considering that XCM was released earlier than X8... The plot would have deviated.

[Zan Sidera]

Considering that XCM was released earlier than X8... The plot would have deviated.

X8 takes XCM into account. That's what the message is. XCM's plot doesn't work without X8 in place for there's clear mention of Copy Chip Reploids in plural. Not only Axl, but other's exist aswell. They've merely been reduced to being an urban legend. XCM clearly tells of Copy Chip production in Gigantis and how many would like their hands on this technology. Untill any future game takes it's place before XCM and adresses X8's epiloque, it's about the events of XCM.


1. What exactly is Model W/V's power? Rebirth or something, cause it seems to "rewrite" Serpents data for the final battle in ZX

Power of Creation.


2. Do Model's have a set apperance or do they(as I personally believe) change depending on the user? Like Aile/Vent's Model Z would look different then Giro's?

Set appearence that's semi variable for the person's proportions and a few other things.


3. Was the Legion(and the three masters) around during ZX1?

Ofcourse, we don't change World Government's in the course of 4 years and 8 months. They established the Equality Laws in the first place.