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Aki-at
08-09-06, 13:11
Check the latest trailers

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2146

Points of interests!

- That bit of with the robot everyone points out!
- The CGI could be used to make a movie if they wanted to as Aerosol told me.
- That part were Sonic is chasing the giant battle ship, yeah thats awesome
- If that giant mecha robo dog is a boss, its a return to those funky boss battles of old.
- Sonic hanging for dear life with a whale!

Now the only thing that has let me down slightly is
- The bike part with Shadow looks slightly dated in graphics (but its a short clip so I wont bother with it)
- Jasons still the VA, although he does seem to have improved, I'd still rather prefer if Ryan was rehired but meh, I doubt SEGA will ever chance that choice.
- The size of Sonic and his bloody hands!

Though the trailer has brought a bit more confidence at SEGA's ability on this game to me, but the line "If you thought you knew blue, think faster!" seems a little rushed of a tagline XD favourite bit is when Sonic pushes that robot of the building.

gagaman
08-09-06, 13:41
SONIC THE MOTION PICTURE.
Oh, wait, it's still Sonic Adventure 3 pretending to be are-invention of the series. Funny how that new Sliver character did't even get a glimpse in that trailer, and Shadow only got a blief we-are-reusing-a-model-from-the-Shadow-game-FMVs clip. Not that I'm complaining.The new style Eggman still creeps me out, but that's actually how I'd imagine him to look in a live-action movie.

Why do they need to use FMV's now anyway? I thought the technology was supposed to be good enough to not need those anymore. Oh well.

Aki-at
08-09-06, 14:17
Why do they need to use FMV's now anyway? I thought the technology was supposed to be good enough to not need those anymore. Oh well.

As a member at SFGHQ said "How else do you use retarded amounts of disc space?"

Though we still haven't seen any of the other characters from the Sonic universe yet, but I'm guessing SEGA are trying to emphasise that Sonic's the dude with the main spotlight here.

gagaman
08-09-06, 15:47
Or that this is a Hedgehog's + Humans only game.

Aki-at
08-09-06, 19:23
The main website has been updated with the main/Sonic's theme song of the game, which is so and so, better the Sonic Heroes anyday...main site below.

http://sonic.sega.jp/sonic/

Characters that have been confirmed by the site are

- Amy
- Tails
- Knuckles
- Rouge
- Blaze
- Maybe Omega
- Maybe a few others, extra space seems to suggest it

Oh and Emerald Coost returns as a playable level, Shadow fights some golems and the robot designs looks so cool they deserve to be in Chromehounds.

http://www.jeux-france.com/news17359_sonic-the-hedgehog-en-action.html

Yeah screw the PS3 (taking to long) I need a Xbxo360 now.

The Walrus
08-09-06, 19:33
This game makes me want a Xbox360. Not even knowing that Halo 3 will be on it can make me want it

GrooveMan.exe
08-09-06, 19:57
Advance Series > This.

Thin Eggman and realistic 'bots make me cry. There had better be either Chaos or small animals, or this isn't really the Sonic I knew and loved.

Oh, and the other videos of Siver confirmed my fear that they're Sonic stages, but slow. W00t.

The Walrus
08-09-06, 20:24
Who cares if there slow. Psychic power beats all.

I read in the newest issue of EGM that the game hints at a relationship between sonic and the princess

IMO Original Sonic Series> This

gagaman
08-09-06, 21:35
I hope those other character don't follow you about the levels and yap away at you all the time, we've had enough of that. Interesting to see that Blaze is gonna be in it, though.

A re-make of Emerald Coast? Are they even running out of level ideas now? And that theme was great until the Papa Roach like rapper kicked in. Ugh.

Perks
08-09-06, 22:08
Uhh... 2D Sonic >>> 3D Sonic.

And I haven't even watched the trailer yet!

Aki-at
08-09-06, 22:34
A re-make of Emerald Coast? Are they even running out of level ideas now?

Yeah, well then you can complain that they run out of level ideas since Sonic the Hedgehog 2 then. In all truth it can be considered a tribute to SA1.

Thin Eggman and realistic 'bots make me cry. There had better be either Chaos or small animals, or this isn't really the Sonic I knew and loved.

Thin? (http://www.jeux-france.com/images37_4_17359.html)

Eggman looks bloody evil and sinister, as if he could try to take over the world.

gagaman
08-09-06, 23:57
Too realistic though. It's like they're taking the Final Fantasy: The Sprits Within approach.That Princess looks like she's been ripped staight out of a Final fantasy game, actually.

Sorry, but I find it hard to be impressed by the game still.

Aki-at
09-09-06, 00:16
Too realistic though. It's like they're taking the Final Fantasy: The Sprits Within approach.That Princess looks like she's been ripped staight out of a Final fantasy game, actually.

Sorry, but I find it hard to be impressed by the game still.

I knew you wouldn't before I posted XD though SEGA stated this was to be taken as a "What if Sonic was real?" approach so its all going to look as realistic as they can make it.

Perks
09-09-06, 00:48
But Sonic isn't real! He's a chuffing blue hedgehog!

Jace
09-09-06, 00:50
Either way. I can't wait to play this. It looks SO COOL!

Aki-at
09-09-06, 01:04
But Sonic isn't real! He's a chuffing blue hedgehog!

Nither are Turtles or Transformers, there still set on our world XD (well Sonic is too, but people dont seem to like this extra bit of realism, difference of opinion I suppose)

Kairos
09-09-06, 02:52
I'm just glad Jet isn't in it...

So,are just the hedgehogs playable,or Tail,Knux,Blaze.ETC.

Ogh yeah,EXACTLY why I'm keeping my 360,the PS3 with it $600.00 dollars..

Surreal-8
09-09-06, 10:47
Anyone remember the good old days? About 15 years ago.
http://www.dcshooters.co.uk/sonic/sonic16bit/sonic/images/greenhill12.png

Back when it was JUST SONIC! When the flowers in the background were twice the size him. Sonic games don't need to be realistic, they don't need to be blindingly fast and they don't need more characters!

Why do you think the Sonic Advance games did so well?

GG Hendrix
09-09-06, 10:57
Well, one thing that boggles my mind when people complain about Sega adding new characters- They've been doing it every game since Sonic 2!

Black Doom my arse!

As for the new games- As long as he's blue, runs fast, blows up robots by jumping on them, and collects floating golden rings, It's
A) Unrealistic and silly!
B) Sonic (or at least "Sonic And Friends")

So, my interest in this has been renewed.
I'll have to be sure not to play it on my big telly though, my fave might be rocked clean off.

As for Advance- The only one I liked was 3 (WHICH I LOVE)

Sonic Rush is the best though :D

gagaman
09-09-06, 12:42
I was actually really excited about this game when the first footage was released: Sonic, on his own, running around a huge landscape like a blue-arse fly, like he should. Then they put Shadow in it with his proxy motorbike, and gave it this odd story invovling a princess, and now we've seen the gameplay, it doesn't appaer to do anything previous 3D sonic games haven't done already.

Just call it Sonic Adventure 3 and be done with it, please.

Otakuguy
09-09-06, 13:05
Stop being so negative Gaga, if you look at it in the right light, it seems like a homage to the Sonic OVA in some respects. Besides, there have been no bad comments about it from people who’ve played it (Except for Silver being too slow, but they speeded him up in the GC 2006 videos), and if it even has a single ounce of the atmosphere Sonic Adventure had (Lets face it, SA was just plain amazing in terms of setting and design), it’ll be great. Even if SEGA have added characters into it instead of having Sonic and only Sonic as the playable character, Sonic 2006 is very Sonic oriented, no spotlight stealing at all from Shadow or Silver, it’s as much of an only Sonic game as we’ll get until Sonic team get themselves into gear and create a Sonic game that will launch him and SEGA back into the good books of gamers and fans.

gagaman
09-09-06, 13:46
Sonic and the Secret of the Rings (Wild Fire as it was known before) currently only stars Sonic, although whereveror not the gameplay to that will actually be any good is yet to be seen.

Sonic Adventure was great at the time, but in 7 years we haven't had much ofa step up from that. I'm just finding it hard to see this as a "Re-invention" of the series when it is nothing more than a slight upgrade of the previous 3D games. If they manage to fix all the flaws that previous 3D Sonic games ave had and improve the gameplay big time, then they'll have proved me wrong, but so far it's not really showing me any signs of improvement other than the graphics.

Aki-at
09-09-06, 13:59
Exactly Gaga, lets review SEGAs market strategy with Sonic Next and Sonic: SoTR and there stark differences.

- Sonic Next has three playable characters whiles SoTR has only Sonic playable
- Sonic Next has a deeper storyline, SoTR's can be explained in one sentence
- The graphics of the zone differ from the realism you speak of I suppose

But Gaga, without playing the game, I can't really see how you judge the game on how someone else plays it, and I personally never found so many bugs in SA1 & 2 to complain about other then the camara (and that was rare) but I am talking about the Sonic gameplay here. And big field probeley would confuse the gamer on which way to go, SA2 level designed I liked. Only problem I see are lots of pits of deaths. And we havent had Sonic on his own since Sonic 1 and Sonic CD.

Kairos
09-09-06, 14:31
Personally,SA 1&2 were awsome,Heros was okay,Rush was awsome,I'm stoked to see Blaze in this,Riders (GG already hates me so meh) was alright in my case...I'm not to sure about loTR...

We'll see in Novemder.

GrooveMan.exe
09-09-06, 17:00
I refuse to call this Sonic Adventure 3. Why? To be frank, half of those who followed the Adventure series migrated from the Dreamcast to the Gamecube, and the other half (including me) started on the GC in the first place. Not releasing SA3 on the Wii would be stupid.

As for what makes Sonic successful? It comes now in 3 parts. Firstly there is speed. That's obvious. If you're going slow for more than 2 seconds AND playing as Sonic, you're not playing right.

Then with the addition of the second generation Sonic (Around Sonic Adventure 1, with emerald hunting and shooting), Score became more prevailant. It became a real challenge getting the fastest times and grades, something that the older generation games didn't offer as much of.

Then there was Style. This was around SA2/Heroes. You got rewarded with big scores and cool stunts for being stylish (Admit it, doing some of the later SA2 Sonic stages with minimal touching of the floor was cool.). Sonic Advance 2 onwards had movement-enchancing tricks and was cool. Rush had a whole system based on tricks and was awesome. Shadow and Riders tried their own forms of style, but it didn't really work out.

So what about this game? Is it fast? Does it have an extended lifespan of score attack? Does it have style?

None of those are really confirmed are they ? So why get excited?

Zero20XD6
09-09-06, 17:02
I completely agree with you grooveman SA2 is my favorite sonic game anyways

gagaman
09-09-06, 17:48
But Gaga, without playing the game, I can't really see how you judge the game on how someone else plays it, and I personally never found so many bugs in SA1 & 2 to complain about other then the camara (and that was rare) but I am talking about the Sonic gameplay here.
Of course I can't judge it completely until I play it myself, but judging from the in-game footage it looks as though it plays essentally the same as the SA games, with all that homing and all.

I'm not saying this is gonna be a bad game at all, in fact, it's making me vaugely want a X-Box 360 (but not enough). What I'm saying is, Sega is tying to tell us that this is a completely new direction for the series. It isn't. Even Heroes was more of a new step from Adventure thanthis is (although that new idea proved to be the games un-doing, thanks to how rushed the game was).

Aki-at
09-09-06, 18:20
I refuse to call this Sonic Adventure 3. Why? To be frank, half of those who followed the Adventure series migrated from the Dreamcast to the Gamecube, and the other half (including me) started on the GC in the first place. Not releasing SA3 on the Wii would be stupid.

Excuse me? what type of logic is that...Sonic Adventure started on the Dreamcast and just because some of the followers of the Adventure series moved to the GC (myself I moved to the PS2) it should be released on a Nintendo console, pretty stupid logic if you ask me.

As for what makes Sonic successful? It comes now in 3 parts. Firstly there is speed. That's obvious. If you're going slow for more than 2 seconds AND playing as Sonic, you're not playing right.

What the hell have you been watching? Sonic still travels at break-neck speed, faster then before dare I say.

Then with the addition of the second generation Sonic (Around Sonic Adventure 1, with emerald hunting and shooting), Score became more prevailant. It became a real challenge getting the fastest times and grades, something that the older generation games didn't offer as much of.

Real challange? I think you need more practise on the games, second try of a level I could clock everything with an A grade and almost all levels I play as Sonic or Shadow I usually get an A =D and score was only relavent in SA2 and Heroes actually (not sure about Riders)

Then there was Style. This was around SA2/Heroes. You got rewarded with big scores and cool stunts for being stylish (Admit it, doing some of the later SA2 Sonic stages with minimal touching of the floor was cool.). Sonic Advance 2 onwards had movement-enchancing tricks and was cool. Rush had a whole system based on tricks and was awesome. Shadow and Riders tried their own forms of style, but it didn't really work out.

Style isn't all that importent, I admit Sonic doing some move and being sent forward by it was quite fun, but it isn't what really made Sonic so fun.

So what about this game? Is it fast? Does it have an extended lifespan of score attack? Does it have style?

None of those are really confirmed are they ? So why get excited?

*Twitch* Have you watched any of the trailers? its got speed, its got the score attack, all thats left is this style business you go on about. And those last two went around before when Sonic was at the peak of his prime!

@ Gaga: If you expect any good changes wait for SEGA to go near bankruptcy, that got their creative juices running.

GG Hendrix
09-09-06, 18:31
He's blue, he's going to run very fast, blow up robots by jumping on them, and get harassed by a fat man in a red suit.
The graphics look lovely.
Stuff will fly around as it is blown the hell up.
Robots will shoot lasers.
Golden rings will float in the air.

It's going to rock, damn it!

Surreal-8
09-09-06, 18:54
He's blue, he's going to run very fast, blow up robots by jumping on them, and get harassed by a fat man in a red suit.
Golden rings will float in the air.

That's all it needs! It doesn't really need a story about a princess or whatever. Stop some scientist from turning fluffy animals into robots. Why change things? It's worked for Mario! Rescue princess... that's it!

Did anyone enjoy emerald hunting? And where should we draw the line with characters in Sonic? I think there should be Sonic, Tails (mute) and maybe Knuckles... maybe. Is that narrow minded of me? Maybe.

GG Hendrix
09-09-06, 19:10
That's all it needs! It doesn't really need a story about a princess or whatever. Stop some scientist from turning fluffy animals into robots. Why change things? It's worked for Mario! Rescue princess... that's it!



Then skip the cinematics and just play the game :D

gagaman
09-09-06, 20:29
Then skip the cinematics and just play the game :D
Problem with that idea as far as Heroes and Shadow go: The characters kept jammering onthroughout the levels. I don't mind there being a big cast of characters as long as they know when to shut up (ie: When I'm playing the levels). They would of been more playable without them distracting you all the time. It was bad enough when it was just the Robot Chao!

If they must bring us more charaters, I'd at least like to see them bring back some forgotten old ones: Nack, Bark, Bean, Ray and Mighty.

GG Hendrix
09-09-06, 20:40
How to cure other characters yammering on and on, on Shadow- Press up so you have neither the good nor evil character following. Shadow's dialogue (in levels, not on the cut scenes) is much more tolerable than anyone elses.

However, I will go on record as saying that Vector's voice was awesome and the best thing EVER.

Vector: FIND THA KOMPUTA RUUM!
Everyone: Oh no.
Me: GOD YES!

I'd say "Give Chaotix their own game...again." But I have every confidence that they would fuck it up.

Am I the only person in the world who wasn't bothered by Omnachao?
I'm not a fan, I just dont get the "DESTROY HIM!" people.
"Press up on the-"
"SHUT UP!"
":("

Same for Big, hahaha. (Who Im just apathetic towards)

How I managed to cope with the dialogue throughout Shadow The Hedgehog- I was playing it with one of my youngest stepbrothers, so I was just reading everything in a silly voice, and improvising dialogue. (and adding "NEXT TIME GADGET!" to all of Black Doom's lines) So we were both amused :p

Just ignore the dialogue. I'm skipping the plot for Sonic Next and just going straight in with custom soundtrack (As I am anxious to see how Mozart + Sonic works). Turned up loud enough to drown out the dialogue :D


It will never happen, (not even in a pararel universe) but a man can dream- Give Sega to Nigel Kitching and Richard Elson.
The videogame equivalent of STC = Hells yes.

Or just restart STC, damn it.

Perks
10-09-06, 02:12
The dialogue in Japanese is bearable, so I guess I'll just be doing that!

Aki-at
12-09-06, 19:37
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4756/action0404gd2.jpg

Jace
12-09-06, 19:39
So we WILL get to play as other char. as well. I don't know if that's good or bad.

GG Hendrix
12-09-06, 19:44
As long as Tails isn't in that (five hours of swearing) robot walking plane thing rubbish, then this is good news.

Kairos
12-09-06, 22:01
That...that means...Blaze is playable! w00t

As long as Tails isn't in that (five hours of swearing) robot walking plane thing rubbish, then this is good news.

I personally like blowing things up,but,I'm happy.

I hope I dodn't have to race Sonic like in SA1...

tuckur21
12-09-06, 22:03
Who the hell is blaze?

gagaman
12-09-06, 23:23
Blaze was in Sonic Rush on the DS.

Now this is definatly not a re-invention of the series if they just go and make all the other characters playable again, if that is indeed a screeshot of a playable Tails. So much for this game having more levels for less characters, this game is looking more and more like a Sonic Adventure 3 with every new screenshot. Speaking of which, does anyone know where that screenshot of tails came from?

Aki-at
12-09-06, 23:37
Speaking of which, does anyone know where that screenshot of tails came from?

Came from Sonic style, I just up-loaded onto imageshack because it doesnt take you straight to the picture.

http://sonicstyle.org/

So much for this game having more levels for less characters, this game is looking more and more like a Sonic Adventure 3 with every new screenshot.

Oh and Tails isn't playable in story mode, your just able to play as him form level select. So your not forced to play as him and can play as long as Sonic apparently, good news if you ask me as long as they add multiple routes.

gagaman
12-09-06, 23:41
Ah, that wouldn't be so bad then.

Kairos
13-09-06, 04:29
This game is looking more and more like a Sonic Adventure 3 with every new screenshot.

It probably would've been named that, if it wasn't on the Next gen consoles, hence the name-Sonic-Next Generation.

gagaman
13-09-06, 11:25
No, it's just called 'Sonic the Hedgehog'. Most people are calling it 'Sonic Next-gen' so as not to get confused with the original game.

Anro
13-09-06, 12:06
this remindes me so much of sonnic adventure 1/DX directors cut which i am trying to unlock metal sonic!

this game better have alot of unlockables.

GG Hendrix
13-09-06, 12:16
Is it being Sonic Adventure 3 really so bad?
Cant speak for the second, but the first SA is still great fun (FUCK THE HATERS! AGRHAGRRA!!!!!!11111one)

gagaman
13-09-06, 12:18
No, there's nothing wrong with it being just a SA3, but Sega could at least admit that is what it is, rather then trying to pretend it's a big leap for the series like SA1 was from S&K (None of the games inbetween those count).

Anro
13-09-06, 12:23
I think they should make it were you have to collect the chaos emrelds and decide if you want sonic or SUPERSONIC!!!! sorry had a moment there heh...

Aki-at
13-09-06, 12:38
No, there's nothing wrong with it being just a SA3, but Sega could at least admit that is what it is, rather then trying to pretend it's a big leap for the series like SA1 was from S&K (None of the games inbetween those count).

I don't know, being able to upgrade your abilities, rings make you go faster, different attacks do different amounts of damage, apparently less linear design, psychic powers, new physhics engine, its a leap from Adventure I'd say. Although I agree with you that at first glance it looks more of an update of the previous Adventure game. Meh SEGa's just using that word to gain more attention to the game.

Cant speak for the second

Sonic and Shadow's zones were brilliant! not so much the rest of the characters. Music for Sonic and Shadows level was pretty good too.

GG Hendrix
13-09-06, 12:47
I don't know, being able to upgrade your abilities, rings make you go faster, different attacks do different amounts of damage, apparently less linear design, psychic powers, new physhics engine
Aside from the physics engine- Big whoop!


Just discovered the release date Nov 17, 2006.

Wintersun gig and Sonic The Hedgehog. My 20th birthday will kick ass.

Aki-at
13-09-06, 12:52
Just discovered the release date Nov 17, 2006.

Wintersun gig and Sonic The Hedgehog. My 20th birthday will kick ass.

Yeah the release date has been confimed for a while now, we'll find out a lot more about this game during 22-24 September due to the Tokyo Game Show.

Aki-at
21-09-06, 12:27
Slight update, SEGA updated their site with a trailer for the TGS, but since thats streaming and so unrealible, I'll just give you guys the youtube link.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WFiwIHffnSk

HOT HEDGEHOG X HUMAN LOVIN!

gagaman
21-09-06, 12:41
That music at the end of that trailer was a cover of the ending theme from Sonic 2. Oo-er.

Pinkie Pie
21-09-06, 14:53
They have the rights to that music still? Geeze, considering they barely hold the rights to the SONIC theme, i'm suprised.

As for the "Cover" - thats the original song, not a cover, its teh Sonic 2 Ending theme thats the cover. Or something along those lines.

Am I still the only person who feels Sonic + Humans = Wrong? It, just.. doesn't make any sense.

Admittedly, the Sonic portions look cool. REALLY cool. They look right, and the new Emerald Coast looks pretty awesome. And it's fast, without looking like "I'm Shadow and I walk on Perma-ICE", or "Heroes lets jump off the level for no reason" or "Adventure runs at the same speed of Mario 64".

The others don't. The Shadow sections scream... well.. "ZOMG ITS SHADOW THE HEDGEHOGALL OVER AGAIN."
Do we get the "Walks on ICE" alll over again?
And theres not enough of the other character for me to pass judgement.

And humans STILL don't make any bloody sense. They didn't in SA, don't now.
Mario - it makes sense. He rescues a human princess (or close enough), and because he's human (ok, Italian, but close enough, *KICKED*), that makes sense. Ok, the REST of Mario doesn't make sense, but that bit does.
Sonic... it, just.. doesn't. At all. Nuff said. At least every other Sonic francise has attempted to make sense of it.

Er rant over.

GG Hendrix
21-09-06, 14:57
Am I still the only person who feels Sonic + Humans = Wrong? It, just.. doesn't make any sense.

Robotnik. :g-neko:

Aki-at
21-09-06, 15:18
Sonic... it, just.. doesn't. At all. Nuff said. At least every other Sonic francise has attempted to make sense of it.

Er rant over.

SATAM doesn't make any sense because its an entire world with animals and only two humans! XD and remember, Sonic and his firends pre-Adventure were the only 3ft tall animals in their world!

And Sonic has always been set on Earth or at least hinted at, South Island and Christmas Island actual location on Earth.

Shadow also flys though a glider in one of his levels.

Pinkie Pie
21-09-06, 15:36
Robotnik makes sense. An alien scientist happens to land on an alien world. That makes sense. It isn't treated as normal, as alien scientist attempts to take over planet.
Guess what - thats basically the storyline in all the previous francises.

A world full of animals makes sense. Because, face it, if humans don't evolve somewhere, you either get Klingons or Animals.

Sonic X makes sense, a bunch of alien animals get warped to earth. It isn't treated as normal. I recall quite clearly Sonic being treated as not a "normal everyday event" when the series started.

Mario makes MORE sense than Sonic Adventure does. And THATS saying something.

Sonic Adventure doesn't. It makes as much sense as Archie attempting to make it make sense. It treats it as the animal-cast as being born there, and everyone treating it as completely normal.

When theres about 10 talking animals on a planet - why the hell would that be treated as normal? The Echnia race doesn't count - they're all but extinct.

Blah. Sonic + Humans (not including Robotnik, who is an Egg anyway.) = Wrong.

Aki-at
21-09-06, 15:49
Robotnik makes sense. An alien scientist happens to land on an alien world. That makes sense. It isn't treated as normal, as alien scientist attempts to take over planet.
Guess what - thats basically the storyline in all the previous francises.

He was never an alien! and Mobius never existed! it was just a interview that was translated wrong thats all. South Island and Christmas Island are locations on Earth, Eggman is a human, so therefore its likely their on Earth!

A world full of animals makes sense. Because, face it, if humans don't evolve somewhere, you either get Klingons or Animals.


I'll say again, Sonic and his friends are the only three foot tall animals! their as different in a kingdom full of normal animals as they are in a city full of humans!

Pinkie Pie
21-09-06, 15:55
Translation errors or not, the previous storylines made more sense.


I'll say again, Sonic and his friends are the only three foot tall animals! their as different in a kingdom full of normal animals as they are in a city full of humans!
That's exactly my problem with Sonic Adventure as a series. It makes no sense!


Frankly, I couldn't care less about Mobius etc. I just wished the current series and continuity (if you can call it that.) made a bit more sense.

If its Earth - why the hell are there things like Mushroom forests and Cashino Citys filled with deathtraps?
I don't recall visiting Alton Towers and being almost killed by a random floating block.

That's my problem. No sense what-so-ever.

Aki-at
21-09-06, 16:19
Now its just getting silly XD the amount of sense you can get out of a piece of fiction is almost nil. Maybe we should review some of the French documents about the crisis with the robots wanting to behead a French official.

Yes the last sentence was a Doctor Who reference for those not in the loop.

Pinkie Pie
21-09-06, 16:35
Fiction is fiction, but its a least nice when said fiction at least makes sense. At least attempts to anyway.
But no. Theres 10 walking talking animals on the planet. For no reason. Makes perfect sense really.
Either Professor Gerald was a better scientist than first thought or Sonic team really are too lazy to write a backstory.

Why Sonic ever had to have a storyline behind it in the first place is beyond me.
If the whole Shadow Saga made any sense to anyone, let me know.

Aki-at
21-09-06, 16:57
The only logical explaination SEGA can provide for there being talking animals would be that this is a parallal Earth where its not un-common to have talking animals and a giant space conoly over head the planet. I doubt they'll do that. But hey, they have the ancient Babylonians (those birds from Sonic Riders) and the ancient echidnas (who are not related to real life echidnas in any shape or form) now all we need is an ancient hedgehog and fox cultures that was wiped out by some doom creature made of some random element.

gagaman
21-09-06, 17:16
Whenever I hear people aruging over what Sonic "story" is legit, I throw this at them:

http://www.sonic-cult.org/articles/segasonic/

In conclusion, Sega didn't give Sonic a story at all (until SA) and just let every studio that worked with it make up their own story.

Sonic 1 was made when stories in video games were not important. Simple.

GG Hendrix
21-09-06, 17:28
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WHO THE FECK CARES, JUST PLAY THE GAME! (beats the shit out of the floor in vented up apathetic rage) :p

It's a videogame featuring a blue hedgehog who runs very fast, sod a plausable and gripping story! As long as he runs fast and jumps on robots, bam, I'm happy.

And gag- I love that article.
One of the few things about Sonic Cult that I will actually willingly go there for :p

Jace
21-09-06, 17:40
Besides, now they can ACTUALLY give us a story to go by if they "reinvent" the series. If not, oh well, I'm still gonna enjoy it.

Aki-at
21-09-06, 17:45
Great all that typing and GG Hendrix gives the best point in just one paragraph, twat XD

GG Hendrix
21-09-06, 18:02
Great all that typing and GG Hendrix gives the best point in just one paragraph, twat XD
Once again, the alcoholic, skinheaded, sociopathic, nihilistic, sardonic, misanthropic, resentful, hateful resident asshole, has shown you all the light, through a mixture of logic, facetious bullshit, foul language, and rampant egotism.

You are all ordered to construct me a temple made out of whale bones.
And a jewel encrusted golden throne.

:g-winky: :g-Gaga:

Surreal-8
21-09-06, 18:15
The more I see of the trailers the less I want to play the game. It looks like one of those 'Just push forwards for 10 minutes' like the past few sonic games.

I'm with GG Hendrix on this one but I'm not building the temple!

GG Hendrix
21-09-06, 18:22
I'm looking forwards more than ever :D
The fact that I saw Blaze following Silver around bothers me. Not because I dont like Blaze, just because it reminds me of annoying banter from "support" characters.



I'm with GG Hendrix on this one but I'm not building the temple!

Bastard!
Stay there, I'm coming.
I'm going to fuck you up boy! (grabs baseball bat)
The fact that I dont know where you live, what you look like, or what your name is, is an unimportant factor!

YOUR OBLIVION IS UPON YOU!

The Walrus
21-09-06, 19:27
I'm saying this cause, well, Sonic Heroes butchered his personality and Sonic Riders didn't do anything good to it. Seriously though, does anyone think the STH for PS3 and Xbox360 will redeem sonic?

GG Hendrix
21-09-06, 19:49
We already have a Sonic thread!

Sonic needs not redemption.
Riders and Heroes might have sucked, but he's got an impressive enough back catalogue, and Sonic Rush, to not need salvation.

The Walrus
21-09-06, 20:28
oh, can someone delete this then

Pinkie Pie
21-09-06, 21:13
Whenever I hear people aruging over what Sonic "story" is legit, I throw this at them:

http://www.sonic-cult.org/articles/segasonic/

Read it several times, and agree with it.

Doesn't mean I can't severely dislike the new continuity for making no sense what-so-ever. :p
That's what i'm saying. All I said was - Sonic + Humans = Wrong.
It's Aki that started it. :P

If the latest Archies and Shadow the Hedgehog didn't prove that, I don't know what will.

GG Hendrix
21-09-06, 21:15
Damn you, Black Doom!

Pinkie Pie
21-09-06, 21:17
He'll get Gadget next time. Next time.

GG Hendrix
21-09-06, 21:25
You know what did my head in on Shadow?

Black Doom: It would appear that our soldiers' fear is keeping this door sealed.
Black Arms Soldier: BALRGJAGRHA I WILL SHOOT YOU!
You: *kill the soldier, the door opens*
Black Doom: DO NOT ATTACK OUR SOLDIERS! NEXT TIME GADGET!

No one will get this, (something me and my mates piss ourselves at)

Skitting Black Doom's last words.

Black Doom: I am the ultimate power! I am the supreme being!
Everyone in the room: I AM. THE EMPERORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
(everyone starts imitating trumpets)

Pinkie Pie
21-09-06, 21:30
House of the Dead 2 for the win.
"I am, I am, ".. repeat ad nausem.

Goodbye, Agents of the AMS, I am Goldman. I can not act. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

GG Hendrix
21-09-06, 21:35
Hmm hmm hmm hmm.
People of the AMS.
I am Goldman.
Hmm hmm hmm hmm.


My chums and I can't not hate Shadow The Hedgehog.
Any game with a final boss that makes us want to listen to Emperor cant be bad.

BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND-
Calling him nothing but a recolour is a bit unfair, but I am still underwhelmed by Silver The Hedgehog.

gagaman
22-09-06, 13:28
Bad voice acting is a Sega trademark. Just look at the voice work in Virtua Fighter 5. No matter how good the graphics get, they still can't get voice work..but that's how I love them.

gagaman
22-09-06, 13:29
I'll merge it with the other topic.